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Saturday, August 05, 2006

Preparing for the demise of Roe v. Wade

By Darin Peterson
Utah State Senator, District 24

Paul Ray is drafting a bill that – in the event Roe v. Wade is overturned – would make abortion illegal, with several appropriate exceptions.

Read his blog on the House Site.

I support the idea. I like the proactive assertion of our values. I like the fact that this will send a message about the will of the people in my district and our state.

Most of us feel abortion is wrong but are held captive by an old, bad court decision. Strict limitations would make our laws in this area humane. The exceptions for cases of rape, incest, health of the mother, etc. would make it reasonable.

This nation was founded by people who felt individual responsibility was our centerpiece. Freedom means you make your choices and then live with the consequences. Abortion as a form of birth control throws those principles out the window.

A choice to allow or have an abortion is not a minor decision. Lives are at stake. Short-circuiting principles of personal responsibility has a dangerous, negative impact in families, communities and societies wherever it occurs.

I look forward to lending my support to Paul Ray’s bill.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Gloria Steinem said...

Keep your laws and your morals off of my body! Make abortion safe, legal, and rare.

8/07/2006 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why gloria does not live in Utah. When she moves here, we will care what she thinks.

Until then I am with the majority of Utahns who think this is a good thing.

Thank you Senator Peterson.

8/07/2006 10:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well first of all not everyone in Utah is of "The Faith", and not everyone in Utah believes in the same principles of "The Faith". You don't speak for the majority of us! How about speaking for all of us instead of taking orders from the man.

Some of us believe that matters such as this should be left to the individual and we are taking a step backwards by overturning this.

If you care so much about aborting an unborn child than why do you support a bogus War which is killing thousands of innocent people that are already alive; not to mention our own men and women?Classic hypcrite! How about learning some geography and having respect for others.

I believe people have the right to believe in whatever they want and have the right to choose. I think its great people of "The Faith" want to have such large families, but how about paying for it in our school system instead of writing it off. Take some responsibility, your only hurting your own kids by sending them to underfunded schools.

Enough ranting, Let em do with a coat hanger, thats real safe. I'm glad you get to make the decision for the poor kid that gets thrown in an adoption slum because his or parents couldn't make it. I bet that one will turn out great. I guess overpopulation is just a myth, there is plenty of room for all of us to have 10 kids! Lets Multiply Exponentially!

I may not believe in abortion but I believe in choice.

8/07/2006 7:43 PM  
Blogger Eris said...

Where to start? How about with this: the South Dakota law that Rep. Ray is so fond of does not make exceptions for things like rape or incest. He is anxiously awaiting a court challenge to this law, which is clearly anti-woman.

Next: there are several other important considerations when speaking of abortion - how about the health of the mother? I was witness to TWO pregnancies last year that seriously threatened the lives of the mothers and both women were denied an abortion. One of these women had to leave the state to terminate a pregnancy that very nearly killed her. This is abominable!

Third: This debate shouldn't even begin until after legislation is written and passed that a)provides open access to contraceptives; b)requires insurance to cover birth control; and, c)removes a man's right to refuse a paternity test when a woman requests it. We'll see how you boys like being told what to do with your body.

And finally, as someone who is active "in the Faith" I am sick of politicians and Anonymous people touting their (and my) religion as some sort of badge that makes their opinions more valid. Especially when it comes to the abortion issue, the Republican Party is WAY OFF COURSE from the LDS Church.

8/07/2006 10:53 PM  
Anonymous Peta dude said...

Utah needs to enhance penalties for hunters that kill pregnant prey. These are our most vulnerable creatures. They don't have a voice.

8/08/2006 8:53 AM  
Blogger Rep. Ray said...

I find it very interesting to hear the liberal viewpoint. "Don't tell me what to do with my body!!" I'm not telling you what to do with your body. I'm saying you can't kill babies. Abortion should never be used as a contraceptive. Eris, abortion is legal right now, why did the mother have to get permission. Also, prolife is not an LDS issue, it is a conservative issue. The majority of Utahn's are AGAINST abortion.

8/08/2006 5:47 PM  
Blogger Eris said...

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8/08/2006 8:32 PM  
Blogger Eris said...

Rep. Ray:
At no point did I suggest that abortion should be used as a contraceptive. I argued that contraceptives should be more accessible to AVOID unwanted pregnancies.

Abortion in Utah is not legal after the 20th week, which is the point at which most women find out if their pregancies pose a threat to their health. This is when a detailed ultrasound is required, and as such is the moment when severe birth defects are detected. The women I spoke of were two days and five days past the 20th week when it was discovered that their pregnancies posed grave threats and both were told to go to WASHINGTON or SEATTLE. So why don't you and Curtis Bramble tell me why they couldn't get an abortion.

I am LDS and have noticed that this issue is constantly argued from clearly religious points. With little regard for scientific evidence, conservatives claim that life begins at conception - a lump of cells! - and that a fetus feels pain. It seems disingenuous to distinguish between a conservative issue and a LDS issue in Utah.

To respond to your claim that I cannot kill a baby - I am the mother of three beautiful children and I would never kill any of them. Two of those children happen to be girls, and I can tell you that if they had to face this situation, I'd rather see them in a hospital or clinic with a medical professional than in a back alley with a coat hanger.

8/08/2006 10:23 PM  
Blogger pramahaphil said...

Eris,

You did suggest that "accessability" to contraceptives as the great alternative to abortion.

Utah Dem's make some good points regarding sex ed., contraception, birth control, etc... all ideas that could have a powerful effect on slowing unwanted pregnancies. However, when it comes to abortion some are almost venomously defensive of the "procedure". I believe all of the above Democrat suggestions are great (although I'm not sure where in this state it is difficult to get a condom). Why does the solution need to include abortion.

It is hypocritical of the Democratic party to accuse Republican's of religious pandering when the act of abortion clearly opposes this nations founding document; "the right to LIFE,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Some how for Democrats unborn fetuses are their last concern in regards to this issue.

Eris, I have two daughters whom I cherish as well and I hope that they would have they decency to own up to their mistake and put the child up for adoption or raise the child with my help if needs be. To the commenter, "I'm glad you get to make the decision for the poor kid that gets thrown in an adoption slum because his or parents couldn't make it" I guess compassionate Democrats feel it is better to be dead than to live in a slum. Who's Hypocritical?

8/09/2006 8:10 AM  
Blogger pramahaphil said...

Eris,

You did suggest that "accessability" to contraceptives as the great alternative to abortion.

Utah Dem's make some good points regarding sex ed., contraception, birth control, etc... all ideas that could have a powerful effect on slowing unwanted pregnancies. However, when it comes to abortion some are almost venomously defensive of the "procedure". I believe all of the above Democrat suggestions are great (although I'm not sure where in this state it is difficult to get a condom). Why does the solution need to include abortion.

It is hypocritical of the Democratic party to accuse Republican's of religious pandering when the act of abortion clearly opposes this nations founding document; "the right to LIFE,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Some how for Democrats unborn fetuses are their last concern in regards to this issue.

Eris, I have two daughters whom I cherish as well and I hope that they would have they decency to own up to their mistake and put the child up for adoption or raise the child with my help if needs be. To the commenter, "I'm glad you get to make the decision for the poor kid that gets thrown in an adoption slum because his or parents couldn't make it" I guess compassionate Democrats feel it is better to be dead than to live in a slum. Who's Hypocritical?

8/09/2006 8:10 AM  

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