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Wednesday, February 18, 2009

Position on Traditional Marriage

By Chris Buttars
State Senator: District 10

Sometime in January, I talked with Reed Cowan for over an hour. I felt it was a friendly interview and we covered a lot of ground.

Reed assured me that he would treat both sides of the issue fairly and that I would be treated fairly. He told me the interview would be public in about a year and I would be allowed to see his work and approve my part before he released it.

I took Reed at his word and am disappointed.

I believe traditional marriage is the foundation of our civilization and I'll continue to support public policy that strengthens traditional marriage. I will also continue to oppose policy that undermines that foundation.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having witnessed this entire interview and seeing Reed make promises on the day of the interview, I am appalled and shocked about what has happened over the last 24 hours. Apparently we as people cannot rely on man and his word, or on someone’s integrity to hold to their promises. I have seen and been through a lot in my life, and this is on the top of my list for the most horrific things I have seen. Reed cherry picked certain sentences and words out of the conversation. Reed followed what the rest of the media decides to do and took sentences out of paragraphs and words out of sentences to change what was trying to be said, into exactly the opposite of what was trying to be said. Shouldn’t we be focusing more on our budget cuts that have to be done?

2/18/2009 3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Explain to me, anonymous, how one takes the phrase "They're probably the greatest threat to America going down I know of" out of context. There is no additional context to provide to such a statement. Nice (actually not nice, pretty pathetic) try.

2/18/2009 3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please Please Please, keep up the divisive hate talk. You were elected by so few votes and you are so good at putting your whole foot in your mouth. Please keep it up. I excitedly wait for your demise in Utah Politics. Retire you nutburger, retire.

2/18/2009 4:10 PM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Trying to accuse Reed Cowan of being unfair doesn't change the fact that you accused me and the rest of the LGBT community of using feces for sexual thrills. You are a sick and twisted individual, Chris Buttars! I can't wait to see this entire video. I can't believe you are whining about things being taken out of context. How pathetic!

2/18/2009 4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars,

As a public figure and elected official, you made some statements to a reporter with no agreement that your statements were "off the record."

The reporter quoted those statements in a story for publication, and you think you've been treated unfairly?

You're not claiming that you didn't actually make those statements. So really there's no question of fairness. the only question is: Do you stand by what you said, or do you repudiate it?

You reap what you sow.

2/18/2009 4:18 PM  
Blogger TheStormofWar said...

Sen. Buttars, if you consider folks of the LBGT movement and their supporters the "Greatest threat to America", you insult our troops overseas fighting against insurgents, you insult folks who have lost jobs and homes due to our wrecked economy, and you have insulted those who fight for the rights of all individuals.

I can excuse your illconceived attempt to push "Intelligent Design" through the Senate a few years ago, and I can see where the remarks about "this baby is black" being mistakenly taken out of context.

However, there is no excuse for this abomination. You insult my state and my friends with your rhetoric. I ask that you do the honorable thing and step down, or else I hope you keelhauled out of the State Senate as would be befitting a traitor.

2/18/2009 4:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! How quick you forget that the idea of "traditional" marriage in this state is a man and his wife, and another wife, and another wife.

2/18/2009 4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always kind of thought that local terrorism and our own choices in government officials were the "greatest threat to America going down" that we had to face...not to mention our own ignorance about foreign policy, local policy and how to treat our own people with respect and dignity, no matter who they are or what they believe...you see, THIS conversation...the fact that we even have to fight for EQUALITY just shows that America is NOT the land of the free but the land of "FREEDOM FOR SOME" and "JUSTICE FOR SOME"...give me your tired, your hungry, your poor...and I will beat them into submission...I will beat them into believing what I believe and doing as I do...I will shape them into my own vision of perfection and not love them as they are...

America is "going down" because our elected officials and many of our people at large REFUSE to show any type of respect or tolerance for what is DIFFERENT.

No wonder people in the Middle East hate us...no wonder the French make fun of us...no wonder...

2/18/2009 4:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttar's is the only one willing to stand up for what the majority of Utah residents want. Power to him for standing up for what the rest of us our to coward to stand up for. He should be applauded, except wait, the media is ran by extreme liberals who are using there power over the citizens of Utah and nationally for that manner to persuade them of things they would never want there kids to grow up. The media is using there persuasion power to make things that are morally wrong look good. Shame on the media and the things that they do. Yes we can be a loving group of people, but we do NOT have to let go of the things we believe in and the things that we know are true. We do not have to let go of our morals and beliefs for someone else. Power to SENATOR BUTTARS and things he does for this great state. If you have a problem, them move to Massachusetts.

2/18/2009 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you are a disgusting human being. You really need to step down. Please quit embarrassing our state.

2/18/2009 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This topic should not even be a matter of legislation.

It is NOT the government's job to decide which person I marry or not, who I cohabit with and whom I love.

It saddens me that we live in a society where I, like so many others on this post, have to post ANONYMOUS, for FEAR of physical, financial or other reprisal from those we live around.

Utah...think to yourself...

I am SCARED of you...

Not because I do anything wrong (I am STRAIGHT, btw)...but because you are SOOOO ANGRY and SOOO JUDGMENTAL. And yet, so many of you call yourselves RELIGIOUS...aren't RELIGIOUS PEOPLE supposed to "love your neighbor"???

I thought God said "Judge NOT lest YE BE JUDGED". I'm pretty sure that's God's gentler way of saying, "STOP TRYING TO DO MY JOB FOR ME OR I'LL KICK YOUR A**."

Why can't we all just be equal?

You know...I...a single, white, STRAIGHT woman, got forced out of an apartment complex because I was living with my boyfriend and the manager didn't like that we were unmarried and cohabiting.

So all of this HATE does NOT just affect the LGBT community. It affects EVERY unmarried couple.

We may not be a traditional family...but we're one of the happiest I know of. I know PLENTY of married couples...and they fight ALL THE TIME. They destroy their kids because they don't know how to handle adversity and they don't know how to handle any other type of stress.

Those of us on the outside of "traditional" marriage are ALL in the same boat. We may not be having the EXACT same experiences...but we all end up in the same place...at the BOTTOM of the heap.

I am NOT saying that my experience is anywhere near as bad as that of my LGBT friends...they have suffered long and hard.

And I am sad...for EVERYONE.

Gay, Lesian, Bisexual, Transgendered, Married, Unmarried, Straight.


2/18/2009 4:46 PM  
Anonymous Gail Turpin said...

I'm not sure why I bother to make a comment since you have made it clear you don't care what "the gays" think. You are talking about my family, people I love. Since I am not gay, does that mean you will listen? I don't really care-this is not for you, this is for the people I love. My God would not tolerate your cruelty to others. You said "the gays are really mean little buggers!" Who are you to accuse anyone of being mean!!!!!!

2/18/2009 4:46 PM  
Anonymous Joan of Arc said...

Amendment 3: Marriage is between a man and a woman. Not 3 wives, the legislature does not believe in that, read the constitution and then make an INFORMED comment

2/18/2009 4:49 PM  
Blogger Speechie said...

Gail, I agree. I love many people who are LGBT. Out of my five closest friends, two are lesbian and one is bisexual.

Where else in the WORLD, would I be referring to them as such?!

When I introduce my friends to other people, I don't say, "This is my lesbian friend, so and so..." And people DON'T ask!

I like the Anonymous above who said that "we do NOT have to let go of the things we believe in and the things that we know are true".

You and me...WE BELIEVE something DIFFERENT than THAT person...so are THEY saying that YOU AND I should have to GIVE UP what WE BELIEVE IN???

It seems a lot like that, doesn't it?

They don't want to have to give up what THEY believe in but they want us to give up and be punished or outcast for what WE BELIEVE IN.

I don't want ANYONE to give up what they believe in...I just want EVERYONE to be able to have FREEDOM to believe what they choose.

Why is that so difficult?

Why is it so hard to just let my friends love whom they love? Why is that so wrong?

Maybe I don't think it's okay for two hypocrites or bigots to get married. Can we start testing people for bigotry and then telling them THEY can't get married? Not that I would really do that, but wouldn't that seem fair?

2/18/2009 4:57 PM  
Blogger Utah Reb said...

Sen. Buttars,

When you were born, it was common practice to express prejudice against Blacks, and treat them as lesser people. But, thankfully, our society has grown to learn how wrong that was. As time passes, and society worldwide grows to accept other differences, it is sad to see your inability to grow in compassion and love and learn to accept and embrace alternative lifestyles. What will it take to open your heart?

I am entertained by the comment of someone called 'Anonymous,' entered at 3:47pm today. Mr. Cowan obtained a release from you, Senator, and is operating under the rights that gives him. You have been not misrepresented. You represented yourself honestly, and now the world gets to see what is in your own hear.

2/18/2009 4:57 PM  
Blogger Speechie said...

Joan of Arc...they were being SARCASTIC...it's a JOKE about Utah's past. Read a book about HUMOR and then make an informed comment???

2/18/2009 4:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sick of hearing how no one can say anything against the gay movement. If you don't believe in it, don't accept it! Why are we preached to, that we should have tolerance of an unnatural lifestyle? If you think its natural, Show me one gay or lesbian couple that can reproduce.
Homosexuality is wrong and has been from the beginning of time!!!

2/18/2009 5:00 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...


You are the greatest asset the marriage equality movement has right now in the State of Utah. Every time you speak, mainstream Utahns are forced to re-evaluate the assumptions of their position. You help to make it clear that opposition to marriage equality is based in fear and emotion rather than reason.

You are a predictable man, Senator Buttars. Yesterday, I predicted that you would make essentially this exact statement.

If you truly believe everything you said, then you should own it even if Reed behaved unethically. This attack on Reed is really a weak attempt to divert attention elsewhere and cast yourself as a victim.

So, I hope you keep treading down the same path. Every time you open your mouth I am astonished. But, at the same time, I find assurance that every time you speak on this issue you are winning hearts and minds over to the cause of marriage equality- so for that, I say, THANK YOU SENATOR BUTTARS!

2/18/2009 5:00 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...

I made that prediction at:


2/18/2009 5:01 PM  
Anonymous Gail Turpin said...

Anonymous-If you are so tired of gays and those of us who love and support them as fellow human beings and family and friends, why don't you at least have the courage of your convictions and put your name on your post? What a coward! I am proud of my beliefs!!!!

2/18/2009 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars,

I think you're a bigoted idiot. Please do Utah and America a favor by resigning from the Senate. We don't need or want you.

2/18/2009 5:15 PM  
OpenID ayatollahgurkhmeini said...

You are right that marriage is the foundation of human society. What I can't comprehend is your absurd opposition to a significant group of people who are literally demanding monogamous, conservative relationships.

2/18/2009 5:15 PM  
Blogger Standard said...

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2/18/2009 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a link to the story that got this started: http://www.standard.net/live/news/164784/

2/18/2009 5:28 PM  
Blogger Curtis said...

Having listened to 16 plus minutes of you expand on your personal beliefs, I have to wonder what, exactly, was taken out of context.

Senator, I will grant you that a 16 second quote could be taken out of context - but 16 minutes of almost uninterrupted talk?

Do you deny that you said homosexuals were similar to Muslims in that some are a threat to our nation? Do you deny that you believe in a "gay sexual movement?" Do you deny that you feel that homosexuals are utterly lacking in morals?

In short - do you honestly expect us to think that YOU, sir, are the victim?

Also, Senator, do you even know why people are mad at you and your statements?

2/18/2009 5:31 PM  
Anonymous Sterkworks said...

I don't understand how same sex marriage undermines traditional marriage. What is sad about this situation is that Mr. Buttars was voted back into office, meaning the majority of people in his district, our fellow Utahns, feel the same way he does.

2/18/2009 5:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's wrong with picking and choosing? It happens with the bible all the time.

2/18/2009 5:40 PM  
Anonymous Joseph Talbot said...

Senator Buttars,

You are a disgrace to the human race, to this once great country, to this state, to your family name, and to anyone who is associated with you.

Such blind hate is something I hope our children will be able to recognize and avoid.

Please step down from your position as senator, as you do NOT represent my views as a Utah citizen, nor do you represent the views of any tolerant human being.

I cannot sit back and watch as views like yours are so openly poured across the media. Especially considering your public facing job requirements. I view you as a vile creature, whose sole purpose is to generate hatred, intolerance, and general destruction of this democracy.

2/18/2009 5:41 PM  
Blogger JM Bell said...

He's not upset that he was taken out of context, he's upset that you don't think he's funny.

How ironic is it that after three decades of having LGBT friends in my life, I hear about "pig sex" from Sen. Buttars?

Senator - you're antediluvian and not in a good way.

2/18/2009 5:54 PM  
Blogger Emily Andrews said...

Senator Buttars,

There is room in this world for personal opinion, for free speech, and for religious belief, but not hate and intolerance. If you would like to say hateful and derogatory comments about fellow human beings, do it as a private citizen, not as an elected official, representing private citizens.

As a fifteen-year-old straight girl, I hope that one day, I will grow up to live in a Utah of tolerance, justice, and love.

2/18/2009 5:55 PM  
Blogger Deseret Dawg said...

I smell a deliberate setup here. Senator Chris Buttars has courageously staked out a position as the point man advocating traditional family values in a society inundated with filth and immorality. All the enemies of decency have marshaled their forces to bring this stalwart culture warrior down.

Keep the faith, Senator. And thanks for your effort in quashing the Common Ground Initiative, which many people rightfully believe was nothing more than a Trojan horse for gay marriage. And thanks also for taking a stand against Gov. Huntsman's sellout.

2/18/2009 5:56 PM  
Blogger Deseret Dawg said...

To Emily Andrews - you speak of tolerance, but you don't practice it yourself.

Tolerance means tolerating opinions which are different than your own, and rebutting them through facts and civil discourse. Labeling different opinions as "hate" does not constitute tolerance.

2/18/2009 6:02 PM  
Anonymous @dean said...

extreme positions never work. ever.

senator buttars should remember that HIS religion teaches of a plan to force everyone into black and white made-by-another rules by which to live their life, and it is HIS religion that teaches of a God who said NO to that plan, and allowed a spectrum of diverse voices.

while 'we' may not agree with 'them' and 'they' may not understand 'others' and so on, nevertheless, this protectionism in the name of 'keeping the kids safe' is nothing short of trying to create a 'nanny state'. where the individual loses their liberty.

that's not socialism. that's communism. from a republican, no less.

no one will listen to the quiet voice of reason however... too bad.

bottom line, i think what two adults do in their own home, even if it included friends, is THEIR business.

get out of my underwear drawer, sen. buttars! my wife feels the same way.

2/18/2009 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars - you are a sorry excuse for a man and a disgrace to all Mormons and Utahns.

Get off your high horse. As a West Jordan resident, I will never vote for you.

I hope you get cancer.

2/18/2009 6:06 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...

Deseret Dawg,


Let me break it down for you. Everyone has the right to believe what they want, even opinions that the majority feels are intolerant, unintelligent and foolish.

Thwarting efforts of the majority to oppress the minority is NOT being "intolerant" of the minority.

You can believe whatever you want about homosexuals. You just can't use that belief to create laws that punish homosexuals or that are designed to deter homosexual behavior. Preventing your oppression isn't "intolernace", it's liberty.


You give us all hope. Each generation looks at our society with fresh eyes. Keep speaking out for what you believe in, even when it is unpopular, especially in Utah.

2/18/2009 6:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars is right. The gay/lesbian movement is a threat to this nation and the world. I'm tolerant of gays and lesbians. I have family members who are such and I love them dearly and I allow them to live as they choose. But I don't agree that their behavior is acceptable to society and to God. Homosexual behavior IS a detriment to society. The Bible is clear on how the Lord feels about gay/lesbian behavior. It's one of the many things that will cause a nation to ripen in iniquity, a status that led to destruction for many civilizations throughout history. Love the sinner but hate the sin. I salute the Senator for having the courage to stand up and call it like it is. GOd bless him and protect him.

2/18/2009 6:11 PM  
Anonymous Pete said...

I would like to see someone in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in General Authority come out in support of the Common Ground bills next year and watch most of the members of the House and Senate either drop over each other to sponsor a bill or wonder what is going on at Temple Square. Gail would have a cow and Chris would have a heart attack.
Gail and Chris need to develop a wide angle view and stop looking at life through tunnel vision. Why are most of these comments Anonymous? If you feel your comments are right then add your name and be proud.

2/18/2009 6:28 PM  
Blogger Marshall Thompson said...

Sen. Buttars has become a very painful joke to me. His comments make me ache so hard that I just have to laugh at him. To the previous anonymous commenter, how can you say you love your LGBT friends and family dearly and then state that they are destroying the world? I would submit that either you don't love them as much as you think, or perhaps they're not going to destroy the world as we know it as much as you think. Either way, I think "love the sinner, hate the sin" isn't going far enough. How about just "love."

2/18/2009 6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of the thought police or the freedom of speech police. In this country, people have died for the right of EVERY individual to speak their opinion. Just because a remark hurts someone's or some group's feelings, does not justify asking for their resignation or an apology. Take care of it at the ballot box if you don't like it. Senator Buttars has every right to say exactly what he thinks.

I'm also a little tired of people remarking that Senator Buttars doesn't represent the thoughts or attitudes of people in Utah just because they didn't like what he said. I think he does an excellent job, as do MANY other people that are citizens of this state. I love representatives that take a stand and allow me to know for certain what their positions are. I hate game players that speak words of flattery and insincerety to win elections.

I'm also tired of people trying to throw this "Jesus love" stuff or "non-judgemental" stuff out at people with traditional values. Jesus' love for people never caused him to reject conduct of obedience to God's laws. In fact, he was the picture of perfect obedience. And I get a little tired of people who are not trying to conform their life in accordance with Biblical teaching, trying to give me a lecture about something to which I have tried to make a lifelong matter of living, studying, praying about and obeying...though imperfect the attempt may be.

There is an attitude in this country that makes "tolerance" the "trump virtue." It somehow surpasses all other virtues of christianity. I am supposed to altar my beliefs to accomodate the feelings of anyone and everyone.

Yes, I will say it, too....I believe with all of my heart that homosexuality is one of the greatest threats to this nation.It is my belief that this nation will only survive by having a people who are moral and virtuous. You may disagree...so be it. But it is my belief and I have every right to say it, write it, vocalize it, preach it, teach it, etc. I have always thought and will continue to hold such a position. Having such a stance does not mean I'm a hate monger, or that I advocate unkind conduct toward any of my fellow citizens. But I also am not going to fall for the homosexual agenda of trying to equate their sexuality to things like skin color and insisting that they deserve special laws of protection because of their sexuality.

Thank you Senator Buttars for speaking what you believe to be the truth and standing up for what a lot of the rest of us think, too.

2/18/2009 6:39 PM  
Anonymous Jason said...

I was born in Utah and have lived here my entire life. Both sides of my family go back to Day 1 in this state. I love this area, but it is the people who pull the levers of power, like Senator Buttars and Gail Ruzicka, who have made me decide to leave Utah at the earliest available opportunity. I will not raise a family here among these people as long as they are given power and respect, and I will not contribute any more of my talent or skills to the economy of such an intolerant and hate-filled society.

2/18/2009 6:48 PM  
Anonymous David From Sandy said...

Senator Buttars,

Resign NOW!

Sandy, Utah

2/18/2009 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Joseph Talbot said...

@Anonymous - 6:39 PM

If you are so proud of your feelings, why then, are you anonymous?

I feel you are a true form of hypocrisy in action.

"In this country, people have died for the right of EVERY individual to speak their opinion."

Please don't forget that many people have died `because` of their opinion.

Secondly, I feel that closed mindedness and Christian values are the bane of this country and state, not the value system or foundation. Our forefathers were a mix of Christian and Agnostic slave owners. However, they did their best to convey and distribute freedom. That was their best back then. Is this OUR best effort?

I am quite certain that many of the educated people who have posted above (with their names), could out perform Senator Buttars.

I feel that you are a complete fool, whose mind is focused on controlling human behavior that you willfully choose to not understand. I feel you are an ignorant by choice religious archetype. Thank you for standing up for what you so strongly feel that you cannot even associate to the words you wrote. (Avoid the very appearance of evil... huh)

2/18/2009 6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would not go as to be as
in-human as Buttars is, thus I will refrain from comments directed about him or to him.
I have lived in Utah and other places in America. I think that all people are equal and deserve respect; despite where they live or how they choose to live. I am tired of off color remarks made about anyone. Until we can be positive and teach those in our homes to show respect there will be nastiness and war, hate and protests. IT MUST STOP and others should be held accoutable for hateful remarks. There are hateful things said about anyone and everyone, mormons and non-mormons.
It is true and sad; however, when someone makes a choice it does have consequences for them and others. This is where our concern should lie. If something is so bad that it changes our society in a negative way, IT MUST END or we can say goodbye to our freedoms in this country.

2/18/2009 7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so.... whatever happened to separation of church and state?

2/18/2009 7:06 PM  
Anonymous Eric Ethington said...

A month or so ago, I took my group, PRIDE In Your Community and we had a chance to sit down and speak with Senator Buttars at his home. The conversation was polite and courteous on BOTH sides, and we had a respectful discussion about the disagreement between our two opinions.
Sen. Buttars went as far as to say that a person getting fired or evicted for their sexual orientation was dead wrong in his opinion.

So now I've had several people, including Reed Cowen ask me about how I feel towards this latest comment of his. My answer? I'm not surprised in the least. We have always known who and what Buttars is. Whatever he may say, he is a bigot first and foremost. And all of this discussion about how it doesn't make you a bigot to be opposed to gay/transgender rights is laughable. Sorry folks, it's the same thing as with racial equality. Being against it means you are pro-discrimination, as simple as that. You may not feel like what you do is wrong, but it is. The way you feel and treat people who are different than you matter.

2/18/2009 7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least he had the guts to stand up for what every other Senator up there believes is true and to say it out loud. The rest of us our cowards to surrendering our morals and beliefs.

2/18/2009 8:11 PM  
Anonymous Nate said...

I understand why this has become a topic of such strong sentiment. I myself have spent half of my life entrenched in these struggles with dear friends. It is with that understanding that I ask, whatever your view, to let go of the entrenchments for a moment.

I would hope that we can each consider every individual and their perspective with love, genuine concern. More than anything else we need the ability to treat each other with kindness and respect, without becoming reactionary or defensive. If we would have our perspective and opinion given credit, we must share it with genuine love and humility.

Alone we are incapable of wisdom sufficient to determine the correct course for any human being, let alone for all mankind. We need each other and the collective wisdom of a whole, comprised of individuals who, despite disagreement, have as their primary motive the genuine concern for the well being of every other individual over their own. Then we can address our disagreements with the certainty that the outcome will benefit us all.

There are many with a powerful voice that advocate an attitude of fear and defensiveness; that standing up for your rights or your views at the cost of all else is an absolute imperative. To the contrary, I and many other quiet, but solid voices, submit that the only way to true freedom and personal safety is to love each other. And then we will see clearly we are all in very similar circumstances: we are indeed all brothers and sisters, every one, with a father who loves us unconditionally and eternally.

2/18/2009 8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perversion never wants to be called by its name

2/18/2009 8:45 PM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Buttars lied in what he wrote. I wonder how many people care? Here's audio of part of the interview, as well as the release form.


Buttars is a liar, how many people claiming high moral ground are going to ignore that?

2/18/2009 8:51 PM  
Anonymous Rick said...

What Senator Buttars has said is representative of many people I know. It's the vocal minority that oppose and ridicule him. That he continues to be re-elected attests to the fact his words are in line with what many think.

2/18/2009 8:58 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...


I find it humorous that in Utah politics, "morality" refers exclusively to sex.

2/18/2009 8:58 PM  
Anonymous Rachel Carter said...

Anonymous at 8:45 pm: "Perversion never wants to be called by its name"

Neither does bigotry.

Sexuality is an inborn trait; even the LDS Church has acknowledged that. (See their latest statement on homosexuality, "God Loveth His Children.") I assume Anonymous at 8:45 pm is heterosexual. I imagine he/she would not consider his/her sexual behavior "perverted" and he/she would be right. Heterosexual behavior is no more or less perverted than homosexual behavior. Homosexuality/bisexuality is a fact of nature across species including homosapiens. Folks on the "traditional marriage" side of the question consistently cry that homosexuals are un-natural, therefore perverted, because they cannot reproduce. Fact is, homosexuality occurs in nature's species - including the human species, therefore it is entirely natural. Many "natural" unions do not produce offspring. That they do not produce offspring makes them no less legitimate.

2/18/2009 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't agree with Sen Buttars' hateful words, but he does have the right to his opinion. His own words will reveal the type of person he really is.

My problem is with Sen Buttars' blatant lies. He accused the film maker of misrepresenting him going back on promises. He even claimed this on the State's blog site. Now the audio files and signed documents prove Sen Buttars lied to cover his tracks. How can we trust a man like this is such a leadership position. What else has he has lied about and tried to cover up?

I guess ethics is not a priority for this lawmaker. sad.

2/18/2009 9:23 PM  
Blogger theaikidoman said...


I am truly astounded that you remain in office. You consistently prove yourself to be an ignorant fool. How you got elected must simply be the fact that there are mounds of sheeple living in your district that only see republican on the ballot.

I fail to see the connection between lack of morals and homosexuality. But I do see similarities in your choice of speech with those another. I will get to that in a moment.

I assume that you are LDS. In their doctrine it says that essentially the war in heaven was over freedom of choice. Jesus backed choice Satan wanted to force people to live without choice. You believe that homosexuals choose to live that way, I do not. That is beside the point. You seem to want to prevent people from living a certain way this seems to be, in a way, familiar. Wouldn't you agree? No of course you wouldn't. That is not your way.

Back to choice. We differ on that matter but lets explore your side of it (Forgive me if I am a little off here, I have no idea what you actually think, or even if you are capable of doing so). If people choose a certain way of life then they should be allowed to live that way free from persecution. Much the same reasoning that to LDS pioneers used when deciding to move to this land we now call Utah. These bills were aimed at eliminating persecution. When someone can't provide for their loved one(s) because they loose their home/job or can't get medical coverage from their employer that covers their significant other. How is that not persecution?

I am concerned about the extremes this countries and our states politics are taking, your opinions seem extreme as well. I grew up here in Utah and plan on spending the rest of my days here and I plan on changing this state one day. I hope maybe I can at the very least open some minds to the wondrous variety this world has to offer if only we can open our hearts and let change come.

And on a final note I have two phrases for you to ponder. "Do unto others as you would do unto me", "Judge not lest ye be judged". I believe you know of the author. I just am not sure you follow his teachings.

2/18/2009 9:24 PM  
Blogger rob said...

Buttars says questions of morality with gays cannot be answered since "anything goes" with them. Which means, of course, that gays must necessarily be advocates and practitioners of murder, child abuse & neglect, lowering taxes on the wealthy & raising them on the poor, racial discrimination, neglecting the poor, failing to protect the weak & the powerless, exploiting women & children & the vulnerable, sexual abuse, torture, lying, stealing, incest, cheating, dishonesty in business dealings, cruelty to animals, pyramid ponzi schemes, embezzlement, local Mormon church leaders sexually abusing girls under their ecclesiastical authority, cheating on taxes, abusing youth in behavioral treatment camps, enjoying excess food, prosperous ease and haughtiness rather than taking care of the poor (i.e., SODOMY, as per Ezekiel 16:49), denying medical care to the poor, spending money on gold plated angels when poverty abounds, religious brainwashing from the crib, lying about the authenticity of claimed ancient texts unburied from a New York hillside in the 19th century, deceiving young women into polygamous marriages under the guise of being a prophet in the 19th century, breaking contracts, etc. All these must follow homosexuals since with them "anything goes."

Some perverted genital-obsessed persons equate, even identify, morals with genitals only. And neglect the weightier matters of the law: justice, mercy and faith. Buttars justifies his positions, at least in part, by his belief in "absolutes", as if that was an unqualified virtue. Torquemada, Hitler, and Bin Laden also believe(d) in absolutes. Why otherwise is Buttars obsessed with the genitals and orifices of others? Of course, Buttars also believes that "Intelligent Design" is a legitimate science. He's tailor made to be a Utah legislator, at least for another 10 years. The tide, however is turning, even in Utah. That's an absolute. Hopefully Buttars will live to see the collapse of his house of cards.

2/18/2009 9:27 PM  
Blogger rob said...

Buttars believes in traditional marriage. So do I, 100%. I also believe in same-sex marriages. When same-sex marriage becomes legally protected, as it eventually will, then traditional marriages will still constitute 95-97% of all marriages. That is hardly a threat to traditional marriage. The fact is that neither one threatens the others. Buttars is not so dumb as to not recognize that fact, so what else is at work here?

Is it that the legalization of same-sex marriage will almost certainly lead to the legalization of plural marriages? And since the Manifesto of 1890 was purely pragmatic and practical, not scriptural (by Wilford Woodruff's own admission), the legalization of plural marriage would and should remove all obstacles for the Mormons, including Buttars, to return to a more pure and full practice of The New and Everlasting Covenant (D&C 132). You see, polygamy is still very much a revealed part of Mormon theology and scripture. But would anyone like to venture a guess whether Buttars or the brethren would really like to return to this inspired, Godly and scriptural practice, "Thus Sayeth the Lord" notwithstanding?

It was not until the 1990's that a major denomination of the Baptist tradition in America finally apologized for its support of slavery. I suspect that for the Mormon church and those like Buttars, a similar apology regarding their policy and practice regarding homosexuality will be longer in coming. But it will eventually come. Even if if requires a new "revelation."

2/18/2009 9:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need more Senators to stand up and say what they really believe. I wish I lived in his district; he would have my vote!

2/18/2009 9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States is what this country was founded upon. If you are Gay or Lesbian you desrve no special rights. Take it to the bank. Get off buttars back. He has a right to his opinion. So do you. So go be gay or lesbian but dont push your pathetic opinions on everybody else.Ro

2/18/2009 9:50 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...

Quoting Anonymous 9:50

"The Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States is what this country was founded upon. If you are [African American] you desrve no special rights. Take it to the bank. Get off buttars back. He has a right to his opinion. So do you. So go be [African American] but dont push your pathetic opinions on everybody else.Ro"

"The Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States is what this country was founded upon. If you are [female] you desrve no special rights. Take it to the bank. Get off buttars back. He has a right to his opinion. So do you. So go be [female] but dont push your pathetic opinions on everybody else.Ro"

"The Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States is what this country was founded upon. If you are [disabled] you desrve no special rights. Take it to the bank. Get off buttars back. He has a right to his opinion. So do you. So go be [disabled] but dont push your pathetic opinions on everybody else.Ro"

Go read up on the 14th Amendment, folks. This is what we call a "suspect class" of people.

2/18/2009 9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please step down Mr. Buttars!

2/18/2009 10:26 PM  
Anonymous Patrick A. said...

I cannot believe in this day and age how unintelligent and bigotted people can be. To the anonymous that said homosexuality isn't natural because two homos can't bear children? Love and marriage have nothing to do with procreation and the furthering of the race. That's called sex honey, and it seems alot of people around here are scared of the word.

I think alot of people around these parts confuse a few things. It is not required to be married to have children. It is not required that there be a man and a woman in a relationship for their to be honest and true love. Lastly, it is not required that you approve of my life.

I love how Mr. Buttars seems to think this country was founded on a basis of Marriage. From school we were always taught that this country was originally founded on a basis of people who couldn't afford to pay their taxes and were being sent here to pay off their debt. Then, the founding fathers decided that we would stand for equality... I haven't seen equality in this country yet.

As a whole, this country trounces and tramples to death every idea or way of life that is unfamiliar to them. They use the bible as a weapon of mass destruction for all things that they don't like and seem to forget some of the most profound pieces of wisdom that it has to offer. What ever happened to the golden rule, do unto others as you would have done unto you. What ever happened to "Love thy neighbour".

These things are forgotten because they don't fit in with the hate mongering and bigottry that apparently comes so easy.

I'm not a violent person, I tend to keep to myself and I enjoy hearing about different ways of life and other people's point of view. But there comes a time when I have to wonder to myself, how would they like it.

I mean, he's old... So one day what if a group of people with enough influence decided that old people are no longer deserve equality. And for sake of example, let's say they take away the following:

Right to be married (his marriage disolved instantly)

Protection from hate crimes (there are people out there who don't like old people.)

Equal opportunity to insure their loved one (it's hard enough to get insurance when you're old)

No more joint married tax returns (I get taken for a ride by the IRS every year because I can't file as a joint/married couple with my partner)

Driver's Liscense (it could be said that old drivers are worse then drunk drivers, even if it isn't true. Because, that's what he does.)

And after all that, we'll pretend that he's still a citizen of the US but continue to find more and more ways to discriminate against him. Because that's what he does.

I didn't wake up one day and think to myself, "Wow, wouldn't it be fun to be gay?". I have always since the first time I can remember had an attraction to the same sex. I love my partner very much, he is the only one for me. We are a happy couple who has for the better part of seven years been living in a monogamous relationship. My friends, family, and co-workers always make comments about how well adjusted we are as a couple.

Another thing I think too many people confuse is the following:

Marriage vs. Civil Union

Marriage is a religious term not necessarily a legal term. The definition has been convoluted in the english language for so long the definition in the dictionary mentions the legal aspect, but marriage is NOT a legal term.

Civil Union is the legal aspect of the institution, and should for all intents and purposes be redefined nationally to include M/F F/F M/M relationships.

If you don't want me getting married in your churches, I'm fine with that. I don't believe in the same God/Gods as you apparently. I do however DEMAND to be treated like an equal part of this society. I have a job, pay my bills, pay taxes both federal and state, and I stay out of trouble. I am obviously a much more well adjusted human being the Mr. Buttars. Why does the religious right wing seem to think it's ok to keep me from being happy and equal?

P.S. Since there are so many of you who seem to agree with him, and I assume most of them are LDS. Think back a little while back when your religion and anyone prescribing to it was persecuted as IMMORAL and WRONG, and how that made your people feel. Your religion is still viewed as lunacy and heretic by many in the world, yet you are given your freedom to believe as you wish. Remember, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

2/18/2009 10:29 PM  
Blogger brigham said...

Finally! Somebody has the nuts to say it like is! we need more like him in public view, if what he said wasnt true, then nobody would care, you all admit your guilt with your comments. Maybe if we could get more like him in office all the whiners would tired of all us hate mongering, gun and bible clinging folks with a few morals left and get the hell out of our state, and go hang out with the aids infested perverts in a state that welcomes crimes against God Nature. I agree a hundred and ten percent, and wish you'd could have gone even further with truth,
good job Chris, keep it up, so what if you dont get re-elected? at least you can live with the fact that you stood up for the truth.

2/18/2009 10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel very sorry for you Senator! History will judge you. Trust me! And that goes for any anti-gay rights believers!! When are you people going to get it? Please open your minds! STRETCH a little Mr. Buttars! Open up your mind to other beliefs, lifestyles, and ways of things! Your way is NOT the only way, or the right way! Be receptive to change. Don't go against the wave. Times change, and beliefs evolve. When change happens, we throw out outdated and irrelevant dogmas. Sex is not a black and white issue. Just because you have sex to procreate DOES NOT mean we cannot have sex w/ another person that just happens to be of our same sex, but that we love and vice-versa! I am a straight woman, madly in love with one man at a time. I have never been gay, and I'm pretty sure I will never be gay. However, if I choose to have a sexual relationship with a woman, it would be for me, an adventure or experimenting, but done responsibly of course. Does that make me immoral? No. How about if I force another woman to have sex w/ me because I want to experiment something different. Is that immoral? Yes! See the difference? So just because TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE today is between a man and woman DOES NOT mean that other ALTERNATIVE forms of commitments/love/sex is WRONG! When are you going to grasp this simple coherent idea? Your arguments and your bashing of GAY LIFESTYLE does not make sense. There is no logic to it. All I see is FEAR! You are afraid to step outside of your worldview and examine the world and examine OTHER LIFESTYLES w/ a courageous, gutsy, and downright HONEST pair of lens! I suggest you start embracing and being receptive to new and evolving ideas. And GAY ISSUE is not new. It has always been around. Maybe behind closed doors, but it was always around! Let me ask you this Mr. Buttars... If you were alive during the times of Polygamy, would you have asserted that Polygamy was morally wrong? I highly doubt it. In fact, I think you would have been practicing it. You see... Polygamy, Marriage between 1 man and 1 woman, Gay Marriage, Civil Unions, etc... They are all labels to describe social institutions. They are man made. But being attracted to a man, or to a woman, to a different sex, or to the same sex, IS NOT MAN MADE! Some of us are born that way. Some of us are biologically or physiologically wired that way. Others consciously choose to be. And who cares? People make their decisions. If it is between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS (Hell, maybe even three or more), then it is NOT YOUR'S TO JUDGE! Now if there is FORCE OR DECEPTION involved like as in the case of RAPE or INCEST for example, then we can assert that that is MORALLY WRONG. But sex, procreation, and marriage are DIFFERENT THINGS! Don't lump them into one category, BLACK & WHITE kind of deal! If you fail to understand another's ways, DON'T JUDGE THEM. IT is not your's to judge. In ending... I urge you Mr. Buttars to OPEN YOUR MIND UP MORE. Travel to other parts of the world. Get out of your bubble for a moment or two. Befriend other people of different races, religions, lifestyles than you. Hell, live amongst them for a while, and try to see from a different perspective! STRETCHHHHHH your brain a little!

2/18/2009 11:03 PM  
Anonymous Tom Grover said...

Here's the proof.

This post by Senator Buttars is an unequivocal, unexplainable lie.


Try explaining that away, Senator.

2/18/2009 11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chris Buttars, you are a sick man. You are nothing more than a lap dog for Gayle and that sham eagle forum. You are a mormon bigot. you need to do everyone a favor and resign. I can't believe that people in your district are so stupid that they voted you in again. you are an embarrassment to the human race.

2/18/2009 11:49 PM  
Anonymous Rose said...

Senator, I can indeed see where your morality lies, and with nothing but love and understanding for your affliction in my heart I urge you to return to the teachings of Christ, and the compassion of the Lord. You are, in your current state, failing to represent the teachings you probably believe with honesty you are representing. I pray that one day whatever it is that makes you hate any of your fellow man so much as to make the comments you have made here leaves you.

I do not hate you, Senator, I hate your sin.

2/19/2009 12:02 AM  
Blogger Aaron said...

To whichever Anonymous it was who said something about what the majority of this state wants, you, my friend are an unintelligent ass.

Here's the thing. Our democracy is based on two things. One: majority rules. What you were talking about.


That's what you seem to ignore. By your logic, if all the whites in Utah wanted to be rid of black people, then OF COURSE! we should do it. Because there's less than 1% black people in Utah. And if all (or even more than half) of the whites in utah wanted that, by your logic, WE SHOULD DO IT!

You're probably one of those people who supported that abomination against human rights, Proposition 8. I mean, come on people, that is a complete destruction of minority rights. A court, the institution set up to protect minorities by judicial review, says that something's OK, and suddenly the majority comes out and votes against it?

Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Oh, by the way. I'm not gay. The thought of gay sex is somewhat repulsive to me. I would never do it. But my best friend, more like my brother, is. As are many of my other close friends. And it's their right to do whatever they like as long as they don't harm others. And why is it that I should be able to marry whomever I like, while they can't?

Please, someone argue with me. Please someone tell me that I support something that will destroy our country. You have no logic. None, whatsoever. And if you try and use your religion as logic, here's the thing: It doesn't fly. Your religion preaches ACCEPTANCE and CHOICE. Supporting gay marriage bans goes against both of those. So please, please, argue with me, tell me I'm wrong. You'll only prove yourself to be a bigoted fool who doesn't follow their own religion.

2/19/2009 12:09 AM  
Blogger Stenar said...

Don't you stand behind your words, senator?? No one made you say those things, so why are you trying to blame Reed Cowan? Are you ashamed of what you said? If not, stop trying to blame Reed Cowan.

2/19/2009 12:18 AM  
Anonymous Beavis & Butthead said...

Hey Beavis, let's move to Utah and be legislators.

Why Utah Bunghole?

Because all you need to do to get elected is run as a republican and hate fags.

You're a fag!

Shut up Beavis.

Ya, ya, and I bribe people! And I can change my name too!

Ya you can call yourself Greg, after Greg Brady, because he's cool!

Ya, ya, and my last name can be Huge! Because me and Greg Brady are Huge!

Ya Beavis, I heard he did his mom.

I want my name to be Chris Buttars. I like Chris because I can start a war on Christmas. And Buttars because I like Buttar!

ANd we can sy stuff and get away with it because we're Republicans!

Ya, I can even make fun of Black People.

Ya, ya, you can say, "That baby is black, it's a dark ugly thing!"

Ya, and I can piss off all the fags, because my district likes stuff like that.

Ya, it will be cool to be legislators in Utah. Maybe I can even beat up an old news reporter, and bribe people.

That will be cool!

2/19/2009 12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm very curious about the first post on this blog. The person is supposedly "appalled and shocked" by the misrepresentation of Sen Buttars. They claim to have been there to witness it all.
Now that tapes and documents are out proving Sen Buttars' claims against the film maker to be blatant lies, where is this supporter? Why did he/she lie for Sen Buttars? Are lies and cover-ups how he encourages his staff to respond?
So much for ethics in Utah government!

2/19/2009 1:05 AM  
Blogger Chino Blanco said...

Buttars clearly lied, and now everyone is going to know Buttars is a liar, but nothing is going to happen, because apparently the only thing you're allowed to flaunt in Utah is the law:



"When State Commerce Department Director Francine Giani was asked by The Salt Lake Tribune this week if she would do anything about the anti-gay group America Forever for spending and soliciting money even though its registration as a nonprofit had lapsed, she said she didn't want to ding the group, but would send it a 'cordial' letter."

Good grief. You break the law in Utah, and the only consequence is a friendly note from the folks who are paid to enforce the rules?

How many people have to notice before Dept. of Commerce Dir. Francine Giani decides to do her job? Does she even know what her job is?

Complaints: fgiani@utah.gov

What Chris has done is a real disservice to the state of Utah. His bigoted remarks aside, his mendacity makes apparent just how hopelessly unethical and corrupt Utah state government has become ... Gayle and Chris keep flaunting the rules, and Francine keeps turning a blind eye. Quite the arrangement.

2/19/2009 3:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are the most hateful, bigoted mess I have ever heard of.

Please seek mental health counseling now!

2/19/2009 5:23 AM  
Blogger Korihor said...

Obviously, a village is missing its idiot. How is it that we as Utahns see the likes of Buttars as worthy of holding public office when all they want to do is peer into the private lives of the electorate and act as judge, jury and executioner as to who has rights and who doesn't.
Buttars and his ilk live in perpetual fear; their narrow bell-curve ideology is outdated and without merit.
They claim that homosexuality demeans the 'traditional family' when the divorce rate is twice the marriage rate (and Buttars is quick to forget the history of his own church with their non-traditional marriage practices).
They claim homosexuality as a choice, but can't tell you when they chose to be strait. The honest answer --the one they fail to give-- is that they have always been straight. And yet, their choice to be of a certain denomination --Mormonism in Buttars' case-- is to be protected to the point of absurdity. They could actually choose to adhere to whatever dogma they want, yet they want that choice protected. Fair enough, but let the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness extend to both gay and straight alike.

2/19/2009 8:47 AM  
Blogger Jer said...

As a constituent in your district, Buttars, I'm ashamed to call you my representative. Your hatred doesn't represent my empathy, your unflagging grip on tradition at any cost doesn't represent my openness to new and proven ideas, your constricted worldview doesn't reflect reality.

Step down before you embarrass me and this state any further.

You make me sick.

2/19/2009 8:48 AM  
Anonymous HOLDEN GREEN said...

Sen. Buttars,
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemies from oppression:

For if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach unto himself."

- Thomas Paine -

Makes me think that the religious right might want to consider supporting the rights of their enemies (gays).

Once a group starts trying to eliminate the freedoms and liberties of their enemies, they've left the door open for their enemies to try and eliminate their freedoms and liberties.

I think it's time for you to step down.


2/19/2009 8:58 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

Yet another politician who thinks that their over inflated opinion of themselves is actually shared by others. Worse, someone who thinks that the he speaks for the rest of the world.

I say this Senator Nobody: Keep it up. The only thing you are doing is making sure that future generations go as far away as possible from people like you. People like you made it possible for this country to have a radical change and people like you will make that change happen so long as they continue to open their mouths and let their lack of education show.

2/19/2009 9:06 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

Amendment 3: Marriage is between a man and a woman. Not 3 wives, the legislature does not believe in that, read the constitution and then make an INFORMED comment

Actually, the comment was pretty informed. The official policy of the land MIGHT be 1 man + 1 woman but it has been amply demonstrated that there are factions of the LDS church that have not abide by this. Do we need to remind you of the ranch in Texas? The LDS church might not like it, but those are Mormons too.

2/19/2009 9:13 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

If you think its natural, Show me one gay or lesbian couple that can reproduce.

Then by your reasoning we should not let any woman pass the age of menopause marry since they can not reproduce. And since younger women can reproduce easier, we should eliminate all statutory rape laws and allow men to marry 12 year olds.

So how much for your youngest daughter? I can make a really good offer.

2/19/2009 9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am grateful that you have made a stand on the perversion of homosexuality. I too see this as one of the greatest threats to our nation, and I applaud you for standing out against that practice. I know we are all children of God, and are equal... however the homosexual agenda really shows we are in the last days and they are expecting us to condone unnatural perversion which threatens families, communities and our very nation.
I know this is a divisive issue currently, but you have boldly stood up for your beliefs regardless of the opposition. I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone, as I believe the 'silent' majority really backs up what you are saying.
I do not see any hatred in your comments/actions regarding the homosexuals -- we are supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin -- I believe your stand is just and right.

Thanks for your continued service, and your unflinching stand on this issue.

2/19/2009 9:20 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

Jesus' love for people never caused him to reject conduct of obedience to God's laws. In fact, he was the picture of perfect obedience.

And that is why he was the first one to throw a stone at the adulterous woman, refused to cure the lepers on the Sabbath, refused to even been seen with tax collectors, prostitutes and the like; and he also made sure that every one noticed how he praised the people who had set up shop in the outer limits of the temple, since the people who worshiped there were not worthy of him.

Makes sense to me.

There is an attitude in this country that makes "tolerance" the "trump virtue." It somehow surpasses all other virtues of christianity.

Could it be this: I leave you this commandment: Love one another as I have loved you." Then mixed with this: "For whatever you did not do for these less fortunate, you did not do unto me."

Call me stupid, but I thought Jesus called us to tolerance and respect of all people, not just the ones that show up to worship with you.

2/19/2009 9:31 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

It's the vocal minority that oppose and ridicule him. That he continues to be re-elected attests to the fact his words are in line with what many think.

While you might have a point here, it is not entirely accurate. The fact is that young people are more liberal in their thinking than older generations. What do you think will happen when the people who think like Sen. Butt die off?

2/19/2009 9:40 AM  
Blogger luscious said...

My goodness senator Buttars was out of line with the way he expressed his opinion. I think he does owe an apology to the gay and lesbian people of this state. Nobody should be treated in such a rude way simply because they are different.
However, I have seen some really nasty hateful comments on this board regarding mormons and their beliefs. Please remember, most mormons are not hateful in their beliefs. Yes most of us believe strongly in traditional families and heterosexual unions, and have a right to that opinion. But lets please have some respect for people who are different. This includes the gay and lesbian community as well! I've seen more hate directed comments towards mormons than any other group in Utah. Please stand behind what you preach and return the respect for different beliefs, ways of life, and opinions.
The same goes for you Buttars. YOu have a right to have your own opinion and beliefs, but please learn some manners and respect. We are all human beings no matter what, and with that comes our God given inherited right for respect and love.
The homosexual crowd needs to kindness, love, and respect as well. I never used to associate hate with the gay and lesbians as growing up the friends and people I knew whom were gay were for the most part a peaceful group of people. However, I have collectively never seen more hateful comments than the ones posted on this board, and on KSL which are directed towards Mormons and their beliefs. Tolerance and respect has to go both ways. It is our God given heritage and right.

2/19/2009 9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same logic that says any man and woman should be allowed to do whatever they want can be extrapolated to include anyone and anything. Why not cousins, or siblings, or men to little girls, women to little boys, children, hey, why not animals? By saying that the only requirement is consent and love, the LGBT community opens up a lot more than they are willing to accept.

2/19/2009 9:47 AM  
Blogger Roger said...

You should be thrown out of the senate. You are a disgrace to our state and our religion. I may move to West Jordan just so I can campaign against you.

2/19/2009 9:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, it's time for Buttars to go.

2/19/2009 9:55 AM  
Blogger Lindoro said...

The same logic that says any man and woman should be allowed to do whatever they want can be extrapolated to include anyone and anything. Why not cousins, or siblings, or men to little girls, women to little boys, children, hey, why not animals?

Those perversions are all practiced by heterosexuals.

* over 90% of convicted pedophiles are heterosexual males.

* Bestiality is not a "gay thing" only. There are plenty of heterosexuals who either practice it or are aroused by it.

By saying that the only requirement is consent and love, the LGBT community opens up a lot more than they are willing to accept.

well, Marriage was originally made for political reasons. Why do you think Queen Victoria is called the grandmother of every monarchy in Europe? Do you think all her daughters and grand daughters married for love? Do you think all those 12-13 year olds in Texas married those 50 year olders out of love?

Tell you this: I propose that we truly protect traditional marriage. Want to make it between 1 man & 1 woman? No problem. Along with that, let's outlaw divorce and bring back stoning laws for all adulterers. Let's see how long that lasts.

2/19/2009 10:10 AM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Video of Buttars "Pig Sex" comment is back up.

2/19/2009 10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sen. Buttars,

You should be ashamed of yourself, this is not Christ-like behaviour, and not worthy of your priesthood authority. You should resign.

2/19/2009 10:45 AM  
Blogger Chino Blanco said...

You know it's bad when even Utah's Fox13 is calling Buttars out as a liar:


2/19/2009 11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing that should be surprising regarding the Buttars issue is the manner in which the state senator keeps getting reelected to the state legislature. As such I cannot blame Sen. Buttars for his opinions...that is his constitutional right; what I am however concerned with is the choice of representation that the district (and citizens) of West Jordan has chosen. Instead of blaming Sen. Buttars I instead place the responsibility of Buttars on the constituents that elected (and reelected him), and implore other fellow citizens of Utah to place responsibility where it truly belongs: West Jordan City.

2/19/2009 12:04 PM  
Blogger Colin said...

Any attempt to defend his comments is almost as shameful as the comments themselves. To try and claim it was a friendly interview with the hate filled rhetoric you and your bs eagle forum spew is a joke. I have seen the tape in it's entirety and theses were your words. PERIOD. You people are a disgrace to the state of Utah, and a disgrace to christianity itself. To try and portray yourself as a victim in this makes my stomach turn. I know you will get what you deserve in the end you racist, bigoted piece of trash.

2/19/2009 12:28 PM  
Anonymous Rachel Carter said...

Colin at 12:28... I'm as dismayed by Sen. Buttars and his followers as you are, but hurl slurs and viciousness at your peril. You, then, can hardly complain when that same treatment is directed at you.

2/19/2009 12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We support and love you Senator Buttars. Thank-you for being a man of honor and integrity. We voted for you as our Senator because of your continued support and loyalty to family values and traditional marriage. You have never wavered from you position to be popular. We are so grateful to you for your work and dedication to this worthy cause.
Kimberly Smith

2/19/2009 12:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is the "pervert" here- tax-paying, law-abiding American citizens who want the to have equal rights, or some old man who obsesses about what homosexuals do in their private life?

2/19/2009 1:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like Chris Buttars is yet another frightened old white man who has convinced himself that his view of the world is the only possible world view. He is mistaken and should step away from public life and interviews if he doesn't want to take heat for being a nasty human being.

2/19/2009 1:11 PM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Kimberly Smith - Anonymous 12:57 PM

A man of honor and integrity? Senator Chris Buttars lied in everything he said above.

Explain, please, how that's honorable in your opinion?

2/19/2009 1:21 PM  
Blogger Deseret Dawg said...

The fact that Chris Buttars' recollection of his conversation with Reed Cowan differs somewhat from Cowan's recollection does NOT mean that Sen. Buttars is lying. That is a value judgment which requires objective substantiation. As people grow older, their memories are simply not as sharp as they once were. Sen. Buttars, to my knowledge, has no prior track record of "lying".

But regardless of what you think about Chris Buttars' politics, you've got to admit he's consistent; he's the same today as he was yesterday. The same cannot be said about Jon Huntsman. The Guv claims he's supported civil unions all along, yet he sat by quietly and uttered not a single peep when Jackie Biskupski voluntarily pulled HJR2, which would have watered down Amendment 3. Then, three days later, Huntsman suddenly proclaims himself publicly in favor of civil unions. But in the process, he threw Jackie Biskupski under the bus.

At least you know where Chris Buttars is coming from. Can you say the same about the televangelically-coiffed Huntsman?

2/19/2009 1:21 PM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Deseret Dawg,

Buttars said: "He told me the interview would be public in about a year and I would be allowed to see his work and approve my part before he released it."

However, there's audio where Cowan explains to Buttars that he hoped to release it by July. And there's a copy of the release where Buttars granted permission for Cowan to do whatever he wanted with the video.

So, the entire premise of this blog that Buttars wrote is false. Do you have a better name for it than "lie"?

2/19/2009 1:27 PM  
Anonymous sean said...

Sen. Buttars,
You are a joke. While the audio I was able to hear didn't convince me that the people that are bashing you don't have an alternative agenda (that isn't so much based on the your comments). The fact that you came out with an explanation like this is just plain ridiculous. Why would it matter that you review and approve the statements that you made? The audio I heard was plain and simple with no editing. You stated your case and your beliefs and that's it (let me make clear as a conservative constituent, I don't agree with your comments). there was nothing unfair about the way the audio was released. I agree that some of the stories written weren't direct, and placed out-of-context quotes that smeared your comments to insinuate other meanings. It wasn't Reed Cowan who did this.
Your opinions are wrong about the gay community. You are living a Fascist dream my friend. That's not what conservatism is about. Quit pushing your outdated and unfair beliefs on us with constricting legislation, please. What happened to liberty?

2/19/2009 2:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Assume for just a moment (if your mind is capable) that Senator Buttars is telling the truth. If he believed that Reed would be honest and follow through with those things he said despite having legal protection to the contrary, is it Buttars fault for believing him? Of course Cowan wouldn't release information with him saying anything to the contrary, that's dumb. If you feel that the media is always ethical and honest, you've got a lot to learn.

2/19/2009 2:59 PM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

Anonymous 2:59 PM

I've heard audio of Cowan explaining to Buttars that he hoped he'd be releasing the video to film festivals in July. How could Buttars possibly come up with "at least a year"?

I could play pretend world with you, but I rather like the real one, full of facts and logic.

2/19/2009 3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing new here folks... it's typical of Senator Buttars intolerable of others/bigoted and of Reed Cowan: drama/ exploitation for personal monetary gain. They are the same in my mind. I question the timing of this.

2/19/2009 3:30 PM  
Anonymous Michael Druce said...

Senator Buttars said: "I believe traditional marriage is the foundation of our civilization".

As a Christ follower, I suggest you revist the "second greatest commandment".

Mat 22:36 "Teacher (Jesus), which commandment in the law is the greatest?"
Mat 22:37 He said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.'
Mat 22:38 This is the greatest and first commandment.
Mat 22:39 And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

2/19/2009 5:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I have known Chris for many years and have found him to be a caring and considerate person."
- Lane Beaty, President and CEO Salt Lake City Chamber of Commerce

Obviously, Mr. Beaty spoke to the Senator "on the record".

2/19/2009 5:30 PM  
Anonymous Vince A. said...

Sen Buttars, you have been asked a second time to step down from your position due to your prejudiced comments. Now you want to whine and say you are misunderstood. Tough luck sir, Thanks to people like you, I can get fired just for being who I am. I think you need a little bit of the same medicine. Get out, The people are asking you to. Stop abusing your power and do the right thing for once. You are a bigot and now you must leave your position because of it.

2/19/2009 5:41 PM  
Blogger mitch said...

Perhaps, Senator Buttars, you should read John Chapter 8, verse 1 - 11. The take home message is "he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." After that you should study the LDS though on the word charity. I am truly embarassed to be a member of the same religion as you.

2/19/2009 5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why health care is bad. Folks to old to contribute, need to pass on.

2/19/2009 6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holden Green -- You made me stop for a moment with your statement:

"Makes me think that the religious right might want to consider supporting the rights of their enemies (gays)."

You are so right! Since Prop 8 passed, I want nothing more than to destroy the mormon "religion".


Any opportunity to hit them and hit them hard is attractive. Nothing violent -- but destroy the ideas they hold dear. To openly discriminate against them. To look at them as trash.

What's amazing is that I rejected my upbringing (mormons are a cult) years ago. Now, I like the idea of writing at every chance how mormons are anti-christian. This is what I was taught. It feels so comforting now to revert back to these ideas from my past (the ever so sick & perverted Catholic Church by the way).

It's sad, really.

Your statement is true, however. Until Prop 8 passed, I would have defended the mormons at every turn. Not anymore and quite the opposite.

Also, until Prop 8, I never heard the word "mormon" from any of my gay or straight friends. Now, it's four letter word.

Prop 8's gift to the mormons was a lot of enemies.

But then, to have the mormon church lie about their openness to "some" rights. Did they spend ~$200,000 to help pass the Common Ground bills? Did they do ANYTHING?

Seems not, as the bills have all died.

Until they DO something positive for the gay community, I'll continue to look for opportunities to destroy their religion, even when I know it's wrong.

2/19/2009 7:09 PM  
Anonymous SD Lester said...

I do not understand why so many people are upset with Mr. Chris Buttars. The statements he makes represent the Mormonism that he grew up with, that if you are a white male Mormon you hold the priesthood and that god will bless all that you say and all that you do, and all others including their wives are second class citizens. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Saints stands behind Mr. Buttars as well as the other right wing fundamentalists controlling the this state.
S. D. Lester

2/19/2009 7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above post makes an interesting point. If you claim your religion is "the one true religion", your are a bigot by nature and by the teachings of your church.

2/19/2009 7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Buttars it is pretty sad the kind of conversations you have when you think you are among friends.

You clearly are a bigot and should NOT representing anyone in the State of Utah.

People like you truly the terrorists of this country. You do nothing but put those down who aren't like you.

I look forward to your resignation, if not now, hopefully it will come soon.

2/19/2009 9:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars,

Homosexual activists have been militant in attacking the moral fiber of our country. How ironic you face this backlash immediately after three anti-marriage bills are defeated. The witchhunt has begun! Moral people take cover.

2/19/2009 9:22 PM  
Blogger mitch said...

It is sad that one persons (Senator Buttars) hate has infected and polarized so many. The goal is to come together and help each other. The best option for the gay and lesbian community would be to show compassion and concern to a misguided and misinformed individual. Senator Buttars should be removed from ANY position in government and BANNED from lobbying in the future. A response of hatred and actions against the LDS Church will only cause many other misguided individuals to "rally" together and further "dig in their heels".

His view is his own. Hate and slander will only serve to create others like him. Jesus teaches to love your enemy and Senator Buttars certainly does not understand this principle.

2/19/2009 9:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No bigot should be in office! Step down Buttars!

2/19/2009 10:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The family is the basic unit of society. The breakdown of that unit has caused and will cause great destruction to our society. THE GAY RIGHTS MOVEMENT IS A THREAT TO AMERICA'S WELL BEING. Homosexuality IS a sexual perversion. Thank heavens for someone like Senator Buttars who stands up for what is right, even when it's not easy or politically popular.

2/20/2009 12:25 AM  
Blogger Chino Blanco said...

If Senator Buttars does not resign, we can expect a repeat of this drama when the complete documentary footage becomes available for distribution.

Or maybe somebody forgot to let Chris know, when he was auditioning for his part, that it was for the role of former Utah state senator?

In any case, if the film is anything as exciting as the preview, it's gonna be a blockbuster.

All sarcasm aside, seriously, how is it going to make Utah look when the rest of the country gets a reminder a few months from now that Buttars is still a Utah state senator? And when that reminder comes, it's not going to be just a few minutes of YouTube or audio, it's gonna be the whole enchilada ... and it's gonna make the rest of the country sick to their stomachs to think Utah did nothing about it the first time around.

It's either going to be a very long summer, or Chris can make the right choice and put Utah's interests before his own.

2/20/2009 4:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chris Buttars(the ugly white republican) is really a closet fag like his shower buddy Larry Craig from Idaho. Tha's why he rants and raves about all is stupid feelings. Chris, please come out of the closet?

2/20/2009 6:47 AM  
Anonymous Kddy Smith-Human being said...

I live in Canada but even I am still disgusted at this. that man is a complete disgrace to humanity and should be removed from the senate, furthermore I want to speak to those who are agreeing with him and preaching your religious beliefs. One, why the hell are most of people who do this unwilling to attach their name to their posts? are you ashamed of yourself or do you not truly believe the nonsense that you are spouting? If you believe in this so strongly then give me your names and my last point. Who are you to judge, who are any of us to judge? Did Jesus not say something like : let he who is without sin cast the first stone." So before any of you go out and tell me what is right or wrong, I want you to reevaluate yourselves. If you are a person who has never committed a sin or has never done anything wrong then by all means show yourself so that I can correct you on that. I believe that everyone no matter who they are is entitled to the same rights, love should not be restricted and as said in some of the above comments, why not just outlaw divorce, why don't we destroy all those who oppose god. I don't care what you believe in, I BELIEVE in love and equality, I BELIEVE that humans all deserve to be treated with respect and dignity and I BELIEVE that no one who has committed sin should be able to pass their bigoted judgment on others. Leave that to the god that you all so strongly believe in. I'm done,

Kody Christopher Smith
Windsor Ontario, Canada
Good day

2/20/2009 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Sarah said...

Heaven forbid we should allow someone to have a differing opinion from us. No, we must lynch Buttars for believing differently. We believe in tolerance. --pitchfork raise--

God bless you, Buttars, for being willing to speak your opinion and for standing up against the destruction of the family.

2/20/2009 9:49 AM  
Anonymous Ed said...

Wait, wait... I am reading and reading all of this, and I can't find ANYWHERE what Senator Buttars DID. Did he go out a beat a black man? Did he go out and whip a gay man? I don't see that anywhere..! Oh yeah, he JUST SAID something. If he feels that way, and I am his constituent and I want him to defend my values, then I am INTERESTED in hearing what he thinks, and the LAST time I checked (I know this is disappearing...how sad) it OK to say what you think in the country. I don't care if Sen. Buttars thinks homosexual sex is disgusting or whatever. I will weigh WHAT he DOES, then make my judgement. Really people..., think of what you are saying with Political correctness and not being able to speak honestly...

2/20/2009 10:02 AM  
Blogger Demosthenes said...

Do people really think that NO ONE in the entire world outside of Utah shares Senator Buttars opinion? Really??? That is amazingly ignorant. There are many many many people that think similarly. If not, why would so many states me specifically defining marriage as between one man and one woman? The LGBT community need to learn that not everyone outside of Utah agrees with them. Sorry to burst their bubble.

2/20/2009 10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know Demosthenes, people hate Mormons more than they hate homosexuals.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most Christians look upon the Mormon "religion" as a bunch of bizarre garbage (Joseph Smith reading the sacred gold tablets through a lens in his tophat???).

2/20/2009 10:52 AM  
Anonymous Survivor said...

Born in the midwest,1950's white religous family.My parent's raised us in a black holiness church .We were called n-lovers,not supposed to intergrate.My aunt had to cross state lines, to marry the black man she loved,because ,THE LAW in many states made it illegal.I have seen some pretty horrible stuff.in my life. Still there are many people FULL of hate hiding behind their religions. Does any one see the parallel to the Scribes and Pharisees (stone throwers)in biblical times and present day religions. Jesus called them, whited sepulchers,full of dead men's bones. They want us to believe GOD lives in the Mausoleum's they call,TEMPLES.They dress up the outward appearance but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Always acusing others of destroying their precious,pure and moral family values.The tree is known by it's fruit.The missing fruit is LOVE. Buttars and sympathizers, Dress up in some sheets and show us your Real selves.Freedom of Speech!!!!

2/20/2009 12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of what the anti gay people or the pro LGBT say,it doesntchange the fact that Buttars is an absolute bigot and embarassment to this state.I find it humourous that state senate president Whaddup said this morning the senate is behind Buttars.Its also laughableto read posts by mormons that they dont like the slams posted against themI guess in they're minds its ok that they" pioneer forefathers had to come here to escape religious persecution,but others who feel persecuted don't count.Per usual Utahns are the laughing stock of america and the world.Yes the world its already hit the webs in europe.Buttars feels the Lgbt community are a bunch of mean buggars?He hasnt seen mean yet.I guess his next step will let us know more of what a bigoted,facist minded individual he is.

2/20/2009 1:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regardless of what the anti gay people or the pro LGBT say,it doesntchange the fact that Buttars is an absolute bigot and embarassment to this state.I find it humourous that state senate president Whaddup said this morning the senate is behind Buttars.Its also laughableto read posts by mormons that they dont like the slams posted against themI guess in they're minds its ok that they" pioneer forefathers had to come here to escape religious persecution,but others who feel persecuted don't count.Per usual Utahns are the laughing stock of america and the world.Yes the world its already hit the webs in europe.Buttars feels the Lgbt community are a bunch of mean buggars?He hasnt seen mean yet.I guess his next step will let us know more of what a bigoted,facist minded individual he is.

2/20/2009 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chris Butters, you know that you can not trust the news media or anyone associated with it. Reed is as dishonorable a person as there could be, all for a story and trying to destroy an individual. There are some [few] in the media that will do real research and real reporting of the truth. My advise Chris is just do your thing and don't talk to the media it never will be reported truthfully, they and any liberals of any movement will try to destroy you because you are a big thorn in their side, keep speaking the truth, it will prevail when it counts.

2/20/2009 1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Texas A&M University holds an annual contest for The Most Appropriate Definition of a Contemporary Term. In 2007, the chosen term was Political Correctness.

This was the winning entry:
> "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous main stream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

The fact that Senator Buttars was "Politically Incorrect" in his choice to express his opionion is evident in that by the outrage of this minority! The media doesn't help much either.

Long live the equal right to all- majority and minority alike- the freedom of speach!

2/20/2009 1:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a friend of Reed Cowan, I know firsthand of his integrity as a person and a reporter. To call him "dishonorable" for shining the spotlight on Sen. Buttars, is a futile attempt to displace the dishonor from the senator that deserves it. In exposing a rotten apple in Utah politics, he is doing honorable service to the citizens of Utah. I know Reed. He is a good man, and he is honest, legal, and honorable.

James Cook
Kaysville, Utah

2/20/2009 1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both Waddoups and Buttars should resign.

2/20/2009 2:15 PM  
Anonymous US Republican said...


He spoke in our public buildings, in our official offices as a Utah State Senator representing the constituents of Utah. He spreads poison with his personal views but is not welcome in our institutions. If he chooses to live a private life with his bigotry that is OK but he crosses the line speaking as a public official.

Unacceptable Utah.

2/20/2009 3:05 PM  
Anonymous Patrick A. said...

As this blog runs on and on, I sit at my desk and it makes me sad to read many of these comments. I don't hate mormons, I respect others right to believe as they see fit. I don't make haineous remarks against their religion or their heterosexuality.

Why does every religion see fit to try to place their interests in government? Whatever happened to seperation of church and state?

And to everyone who says the gays are hating on the mormons. Every group, be you gay, catholic, mormon, muslim, heterosexual, black, asian, etc... is judged by the people they allow to represent them. As a homosexual, I don't align myself with an ideology of militant activism, but I do stand up for myself. Yes, there are those in the gay community who perhaps take things a bit too far. But you can't honestly tell me that you're all shocked about the comments being made about Buttars and the Mormon church when he is allowed to assume himself as a representative of our state and your faith.

The funniest thing that I find about this whole situation is, what kind of staunch right wing republican religious person goes searching for information on "pig sex" and other debauchery? Really? Is this what he spends my tax money on, researching gay sex? Because I could give him tons of information and save the state time and money. And even funnier is the fact that this so called "Pig Sex" is not just limited to the LGBT community. I know plenty of heterosexual men and women who have "alternative" sexual lifestyles. I only say alternative because they're not quite the "missionary position" prescribed sex of most religious faiths.

For example, has anyone ever read the kama sutra? Has Mr. Buttars seen some of those "perverse" images? Those positions surely aren't "natural", albeit pleasurable. And the entire book was written by a civilization that is alive and well.

The great civilizations of the ancient world were not brought down by perversion, they were brought down by corrupt rulers with nothing but their own self serving interests in mind.

2/20/2009 3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Buttars,

You and your bigotry do not represent me, my family, our our values.

If you are so concerned about traditional marriages, perhaps you should concentrate more on fidelity, the divorce rate and children from broken homes.

And another thing, "Thou does protest too much" I would not be surprised to hear you were found in a bathroom stall "with a wide stance" or exchanging elicit text messages with an under age male page.

2/20/2009 8:19 PM  
Blogger Russ said...

Mr Buttars,

What part of all men are created equal do you not understand? This is the United States of America and there is no place for you in it. Unintelligent bigots have and will always pose the greatest threat to this great democracy.

Russell Mallen
Park City, UT

2/21/2009 11:55 AM  
Blogger Bryan said...

Senator Buttars,

It's a shame you are representing my home state. You give all Utahns a bad name and provide a horrible example for your constituents. What happened to the golden rule? When is the last time you read the words, "Judge not that ye be not judged"? Pathetic.

2/21/2009 12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our elected officials are a scam on Utah- do you expect us, the citizens of Utah to act like Buttars in real life? Would we be able to keep our job if we were to express the same comments? They would fire me in a second if I had the spewed the hate that comes from Buttars mouth...

Waddups you and Buttars are an embarrassment to our great state.

2/21/2009 12:21 PM  
Anonymous Keeping it Very Real said...

Senator Buttars, keep it up. In the end, despite all of the rationalizations and lies, homosexuality is an aberration, a perversion. That's why they fight so hard to stifle debate, scream so loud to drown out those telling the truth. They're just tools of the modern day bolsheviks anyway.

2/21/2009 4:48 PM  
Anonymous See the back room deals said...

Is it true that Chris Butters is making fun of members of his own party? Where are you republican senators on this issue? Will you pound your chest just like your great friend Chris Buttars?

Legislator is arrested, resigns seat
Deseret News (Salt Lake City) , Mar 1, 2003 by Pat Reavy

A Utah lawmaker resigned Friday after it became public that he had been arrested for allegedly soliciting sex from an undercover police officer posing as a male prostitute.

Rep. Brent Parker, R-Wellsville, 57, was arrested Wednesday night in Salt Lake City for investigation of sex solicitation, a class B misdemeanor. He was issued a citation and released at the scene.

After obtaining the police report, the Deseret News contacted Parker on the House floor Friday afternoon for his reaction to the charge. "It's not what it appears," he said.

Parker then asked if the Deseret News would hold the story until after the session ended Wednesday. When told the paper would run the story today, he was asked if he had any further comment. "I can't at this time. . . . I can't," he said, after a long pause.

Shortly thereafter, Parker gave House Speaker Marty Stephens a handwritten letter of resignation and left the building. The letter thanked Stephens for his leadership and said his resignation was effective immediately but did not give a reason.

At a news conference following caucus meetings where lawmakers were told of Parker's resignation, Stephens announced the development.

"As with any person accused of a crime, there is a presumption of innocence. (except when Chris Butters is talking) I fully expect that Representative Parker will be given an opportunity to defend himself through the appropriate process as he sees fit," Stephens said. "My heart goes out to Representative Parker and all the other gay and lesbo's,and his family during this difficult time. I wish him well as he works through this period of personal adversity."

Parker recently was elected to a second term in the House, which he initially won in 2000 by defeating longtime GOP legislator Evan Olsen.

The incident happened Wednesday shortly before midnight. Salt Lake City police officer Thomas Flores was working undercover near Cactus Street (41 East) and Exchange Place (355 South), an area known for male prostitution, according to a police report.

A man "motioned towards me to come to his vehicle," Flores said in his report.

When Flores approached the car, the man asked the undercover officer if he "wanted to get together with him," the report states.

Flores told him he was working as a male prostitute and would perform sex acts for $15 to $20. The man then asked Flores if he was a police officer and he replied "no," according to the report.

The man offered the officer $20 to perform a sex act and then attempted to fondle the officer, according to the report.

The man asked for the undercover officer's number so he could call him "every time he came into town," according to the report.

Flores then went to his own vehicle and called for backup. Two more police officers drove into the parking lot with their lights flashing.

Parker was arrested, and officers asked for identification, according to the report. Parker gave the officers his driver's license and his House of Representatives card. He was ticketed and released without incident.

If convicted, a class B misdemeanor carries a penalty of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Parker is married with six children and six grandchildren. He is serving his second consecutive term representing District 5, which includes Hyrum, Wellsville, part of Logan, Paradise and the greater part of Cache County.

Parker was seen as a moderate in the House, not a member of the conservative wing of the House GOP caucus, and often spoke in favor of public education issues.

He was on the Natural Resources Appropriations Subcommittee, House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee and House Business and Labor Committee, where he was vice chairman.

The Cache County Republican party was planning an emergency session today where members were expected to submit three names for possible replacements, said Cache County Republican Party Chairman Clair Ellis. Those names will then be sent to Gov. Mike Leavitt, who will choose Parker's replacement.

"Our legislators have assured me that the governor would move on it over the weekend and there would be a new replacement sworn in Monday morning," Ellis said. The Legislature adjourns Wednesday.

Possible nominees include Providence Republican Curt Webb, who lost to Parker in last June's primary, Clair said.

2/22/2009 12:16 AM  
Anonymous Robin Sawyer said...

To the person who slippery-sloped his way to marrying children and/or animals as an argument against homosexual marriage rights: that position, and the faulty logic behind it, is as tired as it is idiotic.

Do you understand the meaning of consent?

*Children cannot consent. Why? Because consent is a privilege of adults. Competent adults are free to choose how they relate to each other as (theoretical) equals. They can form alliances and contracts as they see fit. Children, however, are not the equal of adults in agency. They can't do those things without the permission of another. Therefore, while they can consent to eat their broccoli, they can't consent to marry.

*Animals can't consent, either. Why? Because they're not HUMAN! It's not like you can sit Chuckles the Cat down and hammer out a legally binding agreement.

2/22/2009 11:00 AM  
Blogger Speechie said...


While I agree with you wholeheartedly that we all need to learn to show respect both ways, I must turn to something Andy Rooney said about discrimination (I am rewriting for our purposes of course):

So you're upset because we're saying that ALL/MOST Mormons are practicing HATRED/DISCRIMINATION against LGBTs and you're saying that we're DISCRIMINATING against YOU...


When 95% of the population spouting hatred against the LGBT community is from a population that is 95% MORMON, that's NOT DISCRIMINATION.


Also, I did not see you make any reference to all of the negative and hateful comments made about Gays on this thread.

While I agree that it is needed, I am ashamed to agree with you, since it is clear that you only speak for one side of the line and not BOTH, as you pretend to.

2/23/2009 10:19 AM  
Blogger Speechie said...

@ Emily Andrews:

Taking a break from the battle here...

I just want to tell you:

Good for you for being 15 and being willing to jump into this nasty discussion and make your voice heard.

And, I am proud of you for being able to be civil in your comments and smart about what you say.

I hope that (unlike the rest of us here) you will be able to command a presence in this manner throughout the rest of your life.

At least ONE good thing came out of all of this wretchedness...and that was YOU.

2/23/2009 10:27 AM  
Blogger David said...

@ Patrick A. - That was incredibly well said. Good luck to you and your partner.

I sent the following to Senate President Waddoups. Afterwords, I came to understand that the entire Utah senate is homophobic and agrees with Mr. Buttars hate-speech. Suffice it to say, my hope in an America where every human being has the same rights just took a disheartening step back.


After listening to Sen. Buttars bile-filled diatribe against gay people, I am deeply troubled that this person is in a position to influence public policy. When I heard him bragging about "stopping all gay-rights legislation for the past 8 years", I actually felt sick to my stomach. I can't believe an elected official would go out of his way to hurt a group of people like that. I also can't imagine that the citizens of Utah would approve of his behavior.

Add to that, his outrageous homophobic rhetoric such as: gay people are destroying the foundation of America, gay people have no morals, gay relationships are an abomination. Personally, I take great offense at those words. I've been in a same-sex relationship for 14 years. Both of us have gone out of our way to be moral upstanding citizens. Over the years we've shown our neighbors and the people we meet on a day-to-day basis that we live our lives exactly like they do. We do our shopping at the market, go out to restaurants, take our dogs for a walk, and stay at home and watch TV... just like any other couple.

Honestly, I think Chris Buttars should be removed from office immediately. Condemning his remarks or censuring him is pointless. Doing so won't change his mindset or his divisive rhetoric. If anyone is destroying the foundation of America, you don't need to look any further than Sen. Buttars. Doesn't our country deserve a civil servant that is looking toward the future instead of living 50 years in the past? I can only hope the answer is 'yes'.

2/24/2009 8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 100% for Chris Buttars and agree with him. He doesn't always use tact in stating the facts, but I'm glad that someone is telling it like it is. The minority (gays)may not agree, but it is a perversion. He is right also. When you go against god and nature and what God created and try to change things for your own benefit, and when you take God out of our lives, you will destroy the world. Thank god there is someone like Chris who has the guts to state his opinion rather than always trying to be political correct and try to please everyone--YOU CAN'T. Gays don't want equality - they want to be better and have more than the rest of us. One man and one woman does NOT equal two men - or two women. Maybe out educational system should teach logic and math also.
WAY TO GO CHRIS !! I hope you aren't punished for saying what we would all like to say. I know you have a hard road to go with being outspoken, but thank you.

2/24/2009 1:08 PM  
Anonymous Patrick A. said...

Dear Anonymous above,

I don't see where anyone is saying that homosexuals want more then anyone else, we already have it in many ways. Statistically speaking, the average homosexual is more educated, has a higher quality of life, and a higher disposable income then their heterosexual counterparts.

What we want, is to have what you lucky heterosexuals take for granted on a daily basis. Our educational system does teach math, and logic. However neither of those things have to do with whether it's ok for someone to make disturbingly biggoted comments, and using authority to keep a minority downtrodden and persecuted.

And just so you know, not everyone believes in God. And supposedly our country was founded on several freedoms including freedom to chose ones religion, and yes the freedom of speech. However, limits have been placed on libel and slander and have been upheld by the Supreme Court.

And by it's very nature, the entire portion of his interview where he stated that gays and lesbians were a bigger threat to America then terrorists was both libel and slanderous. Whether it is his opinion or not, stating such opinion in a public viewable format, and stating such things about an entire minority has opened himself up for a whole slew of legal trouble if people really wanted to push the issue.

And before you start to give me lip about me calling Buttars a biggot and how that's slander... I can prove he's a biggot, he can't prove I'm a threat to the nation.

If all you want is to simply have a country free of homosexuals and the supposed perversions, I say take it. I don't want to live in a country where it's liberty and just for some. There are many countries out there who are more then willing to accept immigrants from the US, and all but two on the top ten list from yahoo news are extremely gay friendly. Perhaps it's better if the whole of the homosexual community leave you to your vices and see how you fair. Wouldn't that be an interesting social experiment? Would things be better or worse for everyone in America?

2/25/2009 9:30 PM  

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