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Jack Thompson sends a lot of Email.

At 6:00 a.m. on Easter Sunday he sent another Email message to a group of contacts and highlighted a picture that, if not legally pornographic, was certainly offensive.*

President Waddoups was on the recipient list. He sent a polite but direct request back to Mr. Thompson:
OK, I've had enough. Please remove me from your Email list.
Jack Thompson wrote back:
Sir, did you look at the material being sold to minors in Utah that I sent you?
President Waddoups responded with a second request to be removed:
Yes, I read them all and I got the picture. No more please.
Well . . . a few days went by with no relief. This morning Michael Waddoups – probably a little bugged - sent a third request to be removed from Thompson's Email list.

The exact words were
I asked you before to remove me from your mailing list. I supported your bill but because of the harassment will not again. If I am not removed I will turn you over to the AG for legal action.
So Jack Thompson issued a press release.

Sheena McFarland at the Trib wrote about it tonight.

Jack Thompson might be right. He might be totally, completely, dead-on right on his video game issue. He might not (smart people can disagree). Either way, this behavior doesn't help his cause.

If anyone is interested, I'll try to post the source docs in the a.m.

[Update, 4/15:] Here are the three requests to be left alone and two relevant follow-up messages from Mr. Thompson. We continue to receive his Email: five yesterday and four today, as of noon.


* Especially if you opened it up, say, at church, on your BlackBerry, like I did. Yes, I get it: don't read Email in church.

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50 Comments:

Blogger Jason The said...

"When The Children You Claim to Protect Are More Mature Than You, and Other Tales of Wisdom"

Just a suggestion.

I'd be interested in the source docs. It would be useful, assuming Thompson will be pushing legislation again, and not just in Utah.

4/15/2009 1:51 AM  
OpenID nightwng2000 said...

This is not unique.

He threw a temper tantrum when a bill he supported down in Louisianna failed in court. He even complained that the LA AG was giving more press attention to the Katrina disaster than the video game bill.

When a DA in the Robida case, a case which the Traitor John Bruce tried to blame on video games, the boy threw another temper tantrum and threatened to have the DA arressted.

And these aren't isolated incidents. Every Google search (general, news, blogs, government, etc) have some idiotic antic of him.

Sad and pathetic.

So, what is the Utah Eagle Forum's response to this? They supported and backed him, not to mention lied and deceived senators during the hearings on the bill, on his behest, even reading some of his emails and quoting from his book.

And, yes, add me to the votes to see these emails in completeness.

Andrew

4/15/2009 6:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes.

Yes, please; please post the original source docs.

Jack Thompson is a horrible, horrible man, one who will do anything to anybody just to further his own twisted agenda, and probably won't stop until he either is thrown in jail or passes away (and I've got $100 saying he'll find someway to send e-mails from beyond the grave).

Everyone, young and old, small and tall, meek and great, must learn about this bastard's true behavior; that underneath his sleek, shiny veneer, one of a well-dressed, well-groomed man-about-town, lies the undeniably acrid stench and wholly unappetizing visage of a steaming pile of vitriolic bullcrap.

Please...please release the source docs...and show everyone the true Jack Thompson and all of his childish antics.

4/15/2009 7:08 AM  
Anonymous D.B. said...

Yes please release the original source materials. Jack Thompson continually berates and harasses legislatures around the country in order to push his own agenda.

4/15/2009 8:04 AM  
Anonymous tpp said...

Maybe next time some politician somewhere else decides it'd be a good idea to align with Jack Thompson, he or she will reconsider before it's too late.

The man is a narcissistic egomanic, a sociopath and a habitual liar.

Like others have said, this isn't abnormal for Mr. Thompson. It's, in fact, a pattern of behavior going FAAR back. Just google Janet Reno and Jack Thompson.

4/15/2009 8:10 AM  
Blogger The Lady Logician said...

Mr. Thompson threw his 2 cents worth in the comments of the Salt Lake Trib story on this - including a letter that he says he sent to the US Attorney for the District of Utah - Brett Tolman.

Seriously - someone show the Senate President how to add this guy to a "blocked sender" list on his email. That is the easiest way to be done with this self centered lunatic.

LL

4/15/2009 8:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also vote to have Thompson's original e-mails published here. Hopefully it will serve as a reminder to politicians to not align themselves with a self-serving, deceitful zealot.

4/15/2009 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thompson is a disbarred wreck who believes that the First Amendment of the Constitution is meaningless.

I am glad the Utah governor's office had the sense to veto this, even though the Utah Legislature is so stupid as to think they can infringe on the rights of citizens freely.

Someone needs to send the Utah legislators copies of the "pleadings" he sent to judges in his various cases that resulted in his being disbarred. Maybe, just maybe then, they'd understand what a nutbag Thompson is and they'd stop taking his worthless word for anything.

4/15/2009 9:04 AM  
Anonymous Shadow D. Darkman of GamePolitics said...

Ah, Jack. Ever the comedian.

Whoever edits this site, please give us the source docs ASAP. That would be excellent.

4/15/2009 9:33 AM  
Anonymous Misty Fowler said...

In case you need just one more vote to publish the docs... please? :)

4/15/2009 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bill was designed to prove that the ESRB isn't up to snuff. Thompson wants federal control over age restrictions on games so that people can be charged on a federal level.

4/15/2009 9:52 AM  
Anonymous Hit the road, Jack. said...

It's largely due to that kind of mass emailing and faxes that got that clown disbarred in Florida.

4/15/2009 10:15 AM  
Anonymous Joe said...

Anonymous, that's completely irrelevant to Thompson's unacceptable behaviour. He shouldn't be allowed to harrass people simply because he thinks he's right; treat others as you would want to be treated.

4/15/2009 10:16 AM  
OpenID nightwng2000 said...

Anonymous 9:52am,
The problem with that argument is that the ESRB, let alone the MPAA, and any other rating systems isn't designed/created as an enforcement tool.

They are designed as INFORMATIONAL tools. Resources for individuals and Parents to make informed decisions about the products that are rated. Moreover, it really isn't a requirement to be rated by the rating systems. Many small, independent, software companies cannot afford to have their software rated by the ESRB. In addition, many retailers sell unrated material, both software as well as other media, such as movies, books, magazines, even recorded TV.

The decision of retailers to use these rating systems to set policy is up to the retailer, not by demand of the rating systems themselves. Some merchant associations voluntarily set policy for their members to follow such rating systems. But, again, that's up to them.

And there are many more resources for individuals and Parents than just the industry designed rating systems. From professional to customer reviews, individuals and Parents have the tools necessary to make decsions appropriate for themselves and their children. In the same way individuals and Parents have resources to decide on the most appropriate neighborhood to live in, the schools they may want their kids to attend, the vehicles they consider the most appropriate, even the religions they choose to expose themselves and their children to. There are MANY resources out there. They don't need other individuals, organizations, or government officials/entities DICTATING to them what is or is not appropriate for them or their children.

Note the difference between being offered opinion (something an individual or Parent may choose to follow or ignore, agree with or disagree with) versus being dictated to (by forced policy or legislation, the recognition of a "moral" or belief, which may not be one the individual or Parent may agree is "moral" or acceptable for themselves or their children).

Andrew

4/15/2009 10:46 AM  
Blogger Ric Cantrell said...

Thanks for the thoughtful discussion. I don't know Jack Thompson, but I gather he's a lot like the rest of us – a mix of virtue and rough edges. It sounds like he's burned his bridges with a lot of people – but this is the Senate, not Jerry Springer; let's keep the analysis as civil as possible.

Thanks for all the thoughtful comments.

4/15/2009 10:57 AM  
Anonymous Jack Thompson said...

Again,I in fact acknowledged no such thing, because it never happened. You never asked me how many e-mails I sent him.

I sent Mr. Waddoups precisely eleven e-mails since Huntsman's veto on March 25. Eleven. Some were necessary because of Mr. Shurtleff's libelous statements about me in the media and Shurtleff's office having been caught working in the shadows for Huntsman's veto.

That is not "dozens of e-mails." I can provide all eleven of them to you if you like. Please correct your story as soon as possible.

Jack Thompson

4/15/2009 11:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Ric Cantrell: Sorry to say, but Jack Thompson is not like the rest of us at all. He's someone who used to be a lawyer but was disbarred for his ridiculous, disrespectful, and inappropriate behaviour. Now he continues to press his agenda regarding banning violent video games through bills and direct contact with legislators. He seems to be a man who truly does not understand a lot of things, for instance in this very case he honestly thinks Waddoups was offended at the email contents and not at the fact that Jack is spamming them to promote his agenda. Please read about Jack Thompson at Wikipedia to see a thorough description of his antics. Suffice to say, Jack Thompson is not like you and me beyond the fact that we all breathe with our mouths (and even then...)

4/15/2009 11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He sounds a lot like some of our liberal overlords....
He certainly is a product of liberal thinking.

4/15/2009 11:57 AM  
Anonymous Jack Thompson said...

I'll have you know waddoups took it kindly to some of my emails concerning the 3/25/09 veto of HB353 and showing him that thanks to a veto that is now causing pornographic material to have legal access to where even minors will get them, Im currently looking for the best possible solution to fight for an override of the bill, Waddoups is making a horrible mistake with his slanderous nature.

4/15/2009 12:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jack Thompson is a nut.
He has a rubber butt.
Every time he turns around,
it goes ‘putt, putt.

This is 100% true! I dare JT to sue me for defamation of character. I have million dollar lawyers and documents already prepared to prove my case and take JT to the cleaners with a counter lawsuit!

4/15/2009 12:12 PM  
OpenID keiji-miashin said...

@11:57 AM Anonymous
Jack Thompson being called a liberal is the funniest thing I've heard all week. Thanks for the unintentional laughs.

@Jack Thompson
The reasons for, contents of, and number of your emails don't matter. When somebody tells you, multiple times, to leave them alone and you don't then it's harassment. Also, Waddoups didn't slander against you and I'd love to see those eleven e-mails.

4/15/2009 1:00 PM  
Anonymous AchtungSpitfire said...

@Jack Thompson:

Jack, doesn't matter whether it was 6 or 24 emails. He told you to stop several times, and you ignored him and continued to harass him.

Funny thing about that. Weren't you disbarred for harassing of folks in a similar manner as well as lying to the court, judges, and other folks?

And no, Jack....your pretend fantasy of Mr Shurtleff spouting libel about you and his office working in the shadows to veto your fatally flawed bill, is out right another fabrication of you. Quit lying, we are not idiots. However the way you keep burning your bridges, I have my own speculation of your intelligence. After all we once had an email conversation, where I never insulted you yet you called me a moron and an idiot. Somehow doing that to a public figure...isn't going to help you.

Enjoy your time, Jack.

James "AchtungSpitfire"
AchtungSpitfire@live.ca

4/15/2009 2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love how Jack is blaming other people for opening the links that he sent them. "It's YOUR FAULT you opened them! I did nothing wrong!"

This is the type of thing Thompson does. He's never at fault. He's never wrong.

I also get the idea Gayle Ruzicka is also tiring of Thompson's antics since one of those letters seemed to be a reply to her (that he obviously copied the entire world on).

4/15/2009 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thompson makes his same usual mistakes.

1) Something that is "offensive" is not necessarily "pornography." There is a rather strict legal definition of "pornography" as set forth in.

2) Grand Theft Auto IV is NOT "pornography." It does not meet the legal definition of such. This does not mean that people aren't offended by the content of the game. Of course, Jack will continue to label it as "porn for children" to try to make a point. He's a serial liar.

3) Just because something is "not pornography" does not make it automatically appropriate for children. Jack seems to believe that Shurtleff WANTS kids to have access to games like GTA IV when he's said the exact opposite. Jack also seems to believe that retailers are handing these games out to children like candy at Halloween when anything can be further from the truth. I'm nearly 40 years old and I was CARDED when buying this game.

Thompson should be ashamed of himself and go back to Florida where he belongs.

4/15/2009 2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"as set forth in Miller v. California."

Sorry for the lost thought.

4/15/2009 2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Thompson should be ashamed of himself and go back to Florida where he belongs."That's cruel and unusual punishment. What did Florida ever do to you?

4/15/2009 2:49 PM  
Anonymous Jack Thompson said...

To all the losers of Anonymous; Man up and use your real name, I feel sorry for your children; Kids like you must have real shame to hide in your family's basements under fake SNs, To achtung, Not bad for a fascist liar like yourself, waddoups isnt mad at an honest man of god, He's just concern as much as me since idiots like the gov.huntsman and the A.G destroyed what could have made both man and child safe from being 6-feet under by your culture of death, Should your boss know your supposed to take the fries out of the cooker.

Jack Thompson

4/15/2009 2:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Waddups needs to learn to block email or hit the delete button so his innocent little eyes won't be offended.

4/15/2009 2:54 PM  
Anonymous Glasshawk said...

Jack...
I am willing to bet that a petition for redress of grievances is applicable to those in the area of governance by those being petitioned. While you have that right to do so to a federal level, petitioning Utah is not. You are a legal resident, and disbarred lawyer, of Florida, not Utah. Kindly stay over there and leave the rest of the United States out of your silly crusade. I'm 33 and I've been IDed when buying various games, which means kids aren't getting them.

Kindly go crawl under a rock and hide with the rest of your kind.

4/15/2009 3:10 PM  
Anonymous AchtungSpitfire said...

@Jack Thompson:

Awwwww Jack, I am a fascist? Far from it! Unlike you; I have never tried to ban certain items from the public, nor have I lied to courts, or badgered and harassed people because they don't fit in with my beliefs.

If calling you out as a harasser and liar (as your disbarment proved) makes me a fascist, then I wonder what that makes you?

Who is an honest man of god that Waddoups is mad at? Certainly it is not you.

Now as for these games giving a death culture that there is no escape from...how come the FBI, RCMP, and various other CREDIBLE sources say in their respective countries...a lot of violent crime has gone DOWN significantly? Not up. That the only reason that people perceive that crime is up, is the fact the media coverage instantaneous.

The only thing that we should be safe from would be from disbarred liars like you.

- James "AchtungSpitfire" Fletcher.

4/15/2009 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Icehawk said...

Ah Thompson how mature of you, calling the Governer an idiot and of course claiming that the A.G. is part of the conspiracy against you. Thing is you did it all to yourself, you have brunt the bridges, slammed the doors, betrayed trusts and generally been rude. You have only to look in mirror to see the cause of your current problems.

I would direct the attention of any right thinking person of the state of Utah (or others reading here) to visit:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)

That should give you a fair idea of the person of John Bruce Thompson.

4/15/2009 3:17 PM  
Blogger kureigu said...

@Jack Thompson, who said "Kids like you must have real shame to hide in your family's basements under fake SNs"

not really, we don't want to be targeted by pedophiles like you. Why else do kid-friendly sites say never to give out your real name?

4/15/2009 3:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've always been amused by Mr. Thompson's penchant for not only behaving like a child but also writing like one.

I must express a growing frustration with how oblivious and out of touch the politicians (everywhere, not just in Utah) have been for ever working with this man in the first place. Simply doing a little background reading on him - readily available at Wikipedia - beforehand would have made it pretty clear that he is a cancer. In fact, his disbarment alone is all you need to read about to figure this out. When someone is found guilty of 27 (read: 27) counts of ethical misconduct...why would you want to even be associated with this person?

When a bull runs through a china shop you can blame the bull but don't forget that it was you who opened the door for him. Had you done a little research you would have seen this mess coming.

4/15/2009 4:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ Jack Thompson:
Why do you claim to be Christian when you call people names and treat innocent game fans like scum?
As far as what you're doing, you're digging yourself a hole you can't get out of.

@ Michael Waddoups:
You do what you need to do to stop this. We're with you all the way.

4/15/2009 4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's Jack Thompson at his best. Since he can't intellectually refute what's being said, he just calls everyone an idiot.

I figured Utah was the only state left that would ever listen to his nonsense. Now that he's burned that bridge down, Thompson's "career" is toast.

4/15/2009 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He sounds a lot like some of our liberal overlords....
He certainly is a product of liberal thinking."

Don't like someone, call them a liberal.

Sounds more like a member of the Eagle Forum. Hey, Ruzika! You're a liberal!

4/15/2009 5:25 PM  
OpenID nightwng2000 said...

As one can see from the Traitor John Bruce's own words, he has a multiple list of groups that he is bigoted against. Keeping my theory that bigots almost never have only one group they are bigoted against (I am the exception because I am only a bigot against bigots).

One of the groups he is clearly bigoted against are those who hold certain types of "lesser" jobs, such as fast food employees. The fact is, if one HAS a job, then they should never feel bad about what the job is. Nor should others look down on them because, after all, they HAVE a job. Also, if it weren't for others doing the job, we'd have to do these jobs ourselves (go home and make our own meals, bring our own lunches to work, and do many other jobs that many look down on). So intelligent people don't look down on people with certain types of jobs because we know they HAVE and are DOING a job. And that's more than some people who CAN work but don't or some people who do stupid, unethical, dishonorable things to loose their jobs. Ahem. I can name one disbarred attorney as an example of that.

In addition, as I've pointed out elsewhere, it is rather hilarious that the Traitor John Bruce calls ANYONE ELSE a "fascist" considering that he publically posted a statment that that he supports the legal death penalty for anyone who opposes his stance. Now THERE is fascism.

Andrew

4/15/2009 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Jack Thompson said...

Good news brain-dead cephalapods and neanderthal gamers everywhere, I've just finished calling a slanderous and misunderstood waddoups, And he understood everything concerning his supposed problems, Turns out im innocent and that it was just some drug induced moron instead, Gov.Huntman and the shurteff will be proud.

@Nightwrong: Has'nt a facist dictator like dennis and the ECA have trouble sleeping at night, cowards like them and the devil himself better be ready.

@Kureigu, Lay off the pills son, Does your boss know you should be working sweetie?

@Icehawk: Dont flatter yourself mr.immature im sure you got your comeback from a video game...So sad that you cant comprehend a theasarus or a dictionary.

@Achtung, Go play "GTA4" and get good at it son, Im sure the world'll be a better place without you and your fascist gaming nature, I dont think your shouldnt be playing with "facts" that your pudding-like brain can take, The FBI and the NSA are helping me look into the matter of the website and the nature of HB353, Im warning you sweetie, Your boss should know your not suppossed to be slacking off.

HUZZAH!

Jack Thompson

4/15/2009 6:05 PM  
OpenID nightwng2000 said...

To the blog owners,
I highly recommend that you check the IP address of the most recent comment claiming to be the Traitor John Bruce "Jack" Thompson.

Either it's a faker, or the sociopath Traito John Bruce was drunk, drugged, or just so shaking anger at being stomped (figuratively speaking of course)by his mental superiors, including those "neanderthal gamers" "brain-dead cephalapods" he decided to look up at (thinking he was looking down on them).

Andrew

4/15/2009 8:54 PM  
Anonymous Shadow D. Darkman, a member of GamePolitics who is laughing his head off at the comedy that is Jack's words said...

Mmm hm hm hm hm hm hm hm hm...

Ehh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh...

Heh hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee...

Huh heh HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

GAH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!HUH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!Heh heh heh heh heh...

Oh, Jack, you ARE funny. You should be a comedian, not this attorney you have claimed to be. I hear it pays more.

4/15/2009 10:59 PM  
Anonymous AchtungSpitfire said...

@ 6:05pm person who claims to be Jack Thompson.

Sadly I don't think you are Thompson. I'll agree with Nightwing2000 on this one...either Jack is off the meds or on the bottle, or this is a faker.

- James "AchtungSpitfire" Fletcher

Beware for I am a Harmless Bunny :P

4/16/2009 12:11 AM  
Blogger L K Tucker said...

Thompson is after the right people but for the wrong reason.

The problem is not the game content, what Thompson is after, but a problem that was discovered and solved forty years ago.

All software, including of course video games, should warn against Subliminal Distraction exposure.

http://VisionAndPsychosis.Net

4/16/2009 7:31 AM  
Anonymous Shadow D. Darkman of GamePolitics said...

I think that last one might not be Jack. He got the catch phrase wrong.

HOOAH!

4/16/2009 10:12 AM  
Anonymous Flipside said...

Whilst this isn't the first time Thompson has forgotten where he left the 'Shift' key, and far from the first time he's been far more threatening than the so called 'violent' people he is standing against, I have to agree that I'm not convinced the above poster is Thompson.

4/16/2009 11:13 AM  
Blogger kureigu said...

@Jack Thompson:

like you, I'm unemployed, thanks to the debts the States incurred having to pay the legal fees defending your failed bills. And calling me "sweetie" just proves my point. And since I'm a guy, you just admitted to not being heterosexual.

P.S. Jesus IS Satan, as stated in Revelation 22:16. He called himself the Morning Star. In other words, Lucifer a.k.a. Satan. What a Revelation!

GTA4 is not a suicide game, but the Bible is a suicide book. Why don't you read Mark 16:17-18 and get good at it (And these signs shall follow them that believe... if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them)

That whole thing about causing "little ones" to stumble? You're guilty of that

4/16/2009 4:04 PM  
Anonymous fuji said...

fas⋅cism - /ˈfæʃɪzəm/
–noun
1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

how can gamers be fascist?

4/16/2009 8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ kureigu:
Leave your anti-christian vile at the door please.

4/17/2009 1:10 PM  
Blogger kureigu said...

@Anonymous 4/17 13:10

sorry, when Thompson spreads his vile disguised as christian-values, that just gets me going

4/17/2009 2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did say in the comments that Jack Thompson doesn't exhibit Christian values at all. A real Christian never calls innocent gamers idiots and he calls them much worse than that on Gamepolitics. Aren't we supposed to love out enemies? Jack sadly doesn't.

4/17/2009 3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12194777

4/22/2009 9:54 AM  

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